Help setting up video/audio live recording

GBI wrote on 1/28/2010, 7:17 AM
Good morning all,

I need help with setting up my audio and video at church so that recorded services (audio and video) can be put on CDs and Dvds to be distributed right after service. Right now we have one camera and lapel/cordless mics feed to a sound board. Unfortunately the audio is burned straight to CD. I feel it and the video feed should go the hard drive for editing.

Any suggestions for workflow? Equipment is being purchased and we have Vegas already.

Thanks.

Comments

richard-amirault wrote on 1/28/2010, 11:14 AM
Do you actually need to edit the video?

I would think the fastest way would be to shoot the video using a camcorder that records directly to DVD. Then use a DVD duplicator that does multiple copies at once.

How long is the service? Since DVD camcorders use smaller DVDs that don't last as long as 'regular' DVDs. (but you can adjust the quality/record time to make them last longer)

I would also strongly suggest trying to find a way to feed the audio into the camcorder. Maybe taking an extra output of the sound board to feed the camera.
Chienworks wrote on 1/28/2010, 11:33 AM
Most mixers have a variety of outputs. There's no reason you can't use more than one output simultaneously. Heck, in a pinch you can get "Y" adapters to split the sound into the CD recorder, a computer for hard drive recording, and into the camcorder. If your camcorder only has a mic input then you'll have to get an attenuating patch cord as the output from the mixer will be way too hot.

I do like the idea of feeding the audio into the camcorder. This way you'll get a combined audio/video signal as you record and won't have to do any sync after wards.
GBI wrote on 1/28/2010, 4:51 PM
No straight to DVD recording. We need to edit. I like mutliple audio capture options and the feed into the video camera. We need two "prosumer" cameras (Sony and/or Cannon, HD), a switcher, a computer, and probably the accessories that come with that (adapters, tripods, backup drivesetc.). We have a 40 channel Yamaha IM-8 sound board (not sure of the outputs on it) and a tascam 750 recorder.

Lighting is pretty decent. Want to be able to get video from 1) switcher feed and 2) the two individual cameras (from their hard drive or miniDV). I'm a video guy just learning the audio stuff.


richard-amirault wrote on 1/28/2010, 6:51 PM
I'm not sure I understand. Editing takes time, and yet you want to distribute these right after the service??
musicvid10 wrote on 1/28/2010, 7:36 PM
brighterside,

The OP is talking about realtime multiplexing. It's nearly a lost art, but one guy, two cameras, a deck, and a paddle was the "only" way to go for live event shooting up until the late 1990s. I know exactly what he is talking about and I still have dozens of event tapes done that way, some quite well.

With a fast DVD replicator it should be no problem at all to get the discs in the hands of the faithful by the end of luncheon.
Tim L wrote on 1/28/2010, 8:17 PM
GBI: When you say "We need to edit" do you mean that after the services you're going to sit down and edit on the Vegas timeline from the multiple sources and then render for DVD and make copies? It seems like that will take quite a bit of time. (But maybe I'm misunderstanding what you mean by having CD's and DVD's available "right after services".)

If you really want DVD's ready at the end of the service, you might be best off with a regular DVD recorder -- like people use to record TV shows. Get a 4-input video switcher and you can have your two cameras feeding into it, plus maybe the output of your power point prejection screen (if you have one) feeding into it, then run the output of the video switcher to the input of the DVD recorder. Run audio from the soundboard to the audio inputs of the DVD recorder.

Hit record at the start of the service, do the camera switching live, and finalize the DVD at the end of the service. Make copies in a dedicated DVD duplicator. This is pretty much what musicvid was referring to. No computer required.

Tim L
GBI wrote on 1/29/2010, 5:45 AM
Hope this clears things up. The DVDs would not be ready until the next day. I've been using Vegas since Pro 4. I'm training staff now, but wanted to have the proper workflow with the content from all the sources.

The CDs would be edited and ready after service (add pre-recorded intro and outro). This is why I need the computer for audio available the same day.

What cameras do you recommend?

Thanks