Subject:Transferring DATs to PC using audio studio

Posted by: dtsthx2

Date:12/13/2009 9:11:41 PM

I am trying to figure out a way when I record through the sound forge audio studio. How do I get the software to detect tracks on the DATS that I am transferring. In other words instead of 1 long recording.. Each DAT has between 20 - 30 cues of music on varying in lenght from 1 minute to 3 minutes. with a 10 second break between tracks. Is there a way that I can program the sound forge that when it is recording, to sense each track mark each one as it records. I can only get it to record 1 long wav file. and hope there is a way to have it sense each track that it is recording. thank you for any help you can offer.

Subject:RE: Transferring DATs to PC using audio studio

Reply by: dtsthx2

Date:12/13/2009 9:15:03 PM

In other words what I have to do now is sit in front of the long wav file and copy and paste each one of the music cues into its own and label it .. seems like way to much work. Hopefully there is a way that the software can record like a cd recorder.. where it senses the silence and then automatically starts a new recorded track and so on and so forth. Each DAT has timecode stripe and I enacted that but cannot get the software to do the above. Hope someone can help me... thank you

Subject:RE: Transferring DATs to PC using audio studio

Reply by: MarkWWW

Date:12/14/2009 6:17:24 AM

In the full version of Sound Forge there are a couple of tools that can help with this process. You can run the Auto Region tool on the file which (with suitable settings of its parameters) will identify the breaks between tracks and mark each item as a separate Region. You can then name the Regions appropriately either using the Regions List or just on the Timeline. Finally you can use the Extract Regions tool to save each region to a separate .wav file, named after the Region name.

But whether you can do this in the cheaper, cut-down, version you are using (Sound Forge Audio Studio) I don't know. The last time someone asked a similar question it turned out that the feature he needed (Auto Trim/Crop) wasn't present in SFAS and it might be that the same is true of the Auto Region and Extract Regions tools that would help you.

Mark

LATER

Hmm, I've just remembered that there is also a Threshold Recording feature and a Recording Mode feature which together should allow you to set up a scheme whereby (during recording this time) it detects the gap between two items and automatically opens a new recording window for each item. I haven't ever used this method myself so I don't know if it would work in practice. And of course, it may not be available in the cut-down Audio Studio version anyway. But I thought I'd mention it.

Subject:RE: Transferring DATs to PC using audio studio

Reply by: dtsthx2

Date:12/14/2009 7:04:18 AM

Hi Mark - It looks like you are correct.. they are not present in Audio studio.. both of those tools.. I just downloaded the trial version of Pro 10 to get me started.. Can You please help me with the set up of the autoregion tool function.. I pressed the record button and went into the various modes to set up what I needed to .. but I dont see wherre I can preset the software to detect this upon pressing the record button.. can you assist with directing me to the appropriate area and getting me going here.. thank you for your time and support..

Subject:RE: Transferring DATs to PC using audio studio

Reply by: MarkWWW

Date:12/14/2009 8:15:18 AM

The Auto Region tool does not work during record, it is something you apply after you have recorded the whole DAT as a single lump.

Record the whole of the DAT to a single file, the go to Tools|Auto Region and set up the various parameters to match your material. Starting from the "Speech Phrases" preset and adjusting to suit should get you to a combination of settings that works for you. The main problem is likely to be that you say the gaps between items are 10 seconds or so. Unfortunately the maximum you can set is 3 seconds so you may get a few spurious regions created during the silent gaps, but you should be able to just ignore these.

As I mentioned before, I am not familar with the other, during-recording-time, method I mentioned so I can't advise on that.

Mark

Subject:RE: Transferring DATs to PC using audio studio

Reply by: dtsthx2

Date:12/14/2009 10:44:24 AM

Mark - I tested this and so far it seems to work. However when I hit stop recording.. the work space appears and then I attempt to save the file as an regular .wav file which you can choose from in the drop box. I name it and save it. However when I go to open and play the file it does not play but opens the graph. the extension is .wav and it shows a windows media icon before the cue... This cannot be to hard of a question. but the Dat is transferred over at 16/48K. so I am keeping it in a straight.wav format. why wont the cue just open and play.. why does the graph open and then I have to hit play in the graph. I went into the naming scheme and file types and labeling and everything apperars right.. am I missing something.. read through the manual..

Subject:RE: Transferring DATs to PC using audio studio

Reply by: MarkWWWW

Date:12/15/2009 5:15:08 AM

Hmm, that is a puzzle. I've never seen anything like that with Sound Forge.

But there are a couple of possibilities that might explain it.

1. I'm still using SF9 and it's possible that something about the record/save process has been changed in SF10. If so them I'm afraid I don't know what it is.

2. You are using the trial version. I'm not sure whether saving files is meant to work in the trial. IIRC in previous trial versions you couldn't save at all.

Mark

Subject:RE: Transferring DATs to PC using audio studi

Reply by: Chienworks

Date:12/15/2009 5:56:06 AM

You have somehow set your file associations to open .wav files in Sound Forge instead of a media player. Sound Forge is an editing program so when it opens a file it shows you the editing screen. This is normal and expected behavior. Pressing the play button to play it is also normal and expected behavior. I'm not sure what you'd want different than that.

If you simply want to play a file then you can either right-mouse-button click on it and choose Open in Media Player or set your file type association to do that permanently.

Sound Forge's file / open dialog box also contains an "auto play" option. Using that window you can browse your hard drive and start any file playing with a single click.

Subject:RE: Transferring DATs to PC using audio studi

Reply by: dtsthx2

Date:12/16/2009 11:02:48 AM

Mark and Cheinworks - Thank you for the help.. that is what it was... after I used the Auto trim crop feature....... then I extracted the regions to be saved in my folder on my drive..... on the drive when I would open the file the files are defaulted to the ( sony sound forge ) program.. I needed to right click on the .wav file and select open with Windows Media player or DB poweramp.. then I made it my default and everything now works fine... This Auto Trim crop feature is slick one of the best tools I have ever seen to do what it does so well... Thanks again for your help and support