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Subject:Fade in/fade out bug in 10.0a Posted by: Jeff Lichtman Date:11/30/2009 1:30:50 PM A month ago I reported a bug in the fade in/fade out feature - not the tool under the Process menu, but the feature that blends the edges of a selection when an effect is applied. I first discovered this bug while using the Smooth/Enhance tool - when applied to a selection (i.e. not the whole file), it amplifies the edges of the selection. With four repeated applications of Smooth/Enhance it amplifies the edges to clipping. The problem doesn't happen if I set the fade-in/fade-out times to zero. I found the problem also happens with the graphic equalizer. I originally reported this problem on October 30. A tech support representative asked me to give them a project file demonstrating the problem, which I did on November 3. SInce then I haven't heard anything from Sony. This bug is a show-stopper for me - I won't be able to use 10.0 until it is fixed. Has anyone else run into this problem? Can anyone at Sony tell me the status of this bug?
Subject:RE: Fade in/fade out bug in 10.0a Reply by: ForumAdmin Date:11/30/2009 2:26:38 PM Have you tried changing the curves to linear fades? With certain effects that do not significantly modify phase, short fades with the default fast/slow curves can add gain. J.
Subject:RE: Fade in/fade out bug in 10.0a Reply by: Jeff Lichtman Date:12/1/2009 10:32:40 PM I just tried it with linear fade-in/fade-out and it solved the problem. Thanks! Can you explain why the default sometimes adds gain? Does this mean that this isn't really a bug? Thanks again.
Subject:RE: Fade in/fade out bug in 10.0a Reply by: ForumAdmin Date:12/2/2009 9:35:57 AM The default curves (slow-out/fast-in) typically sound "better" for longer fades or fades of two different sources. But are not unity-gain (they're parabolic). In a wet/dry scenario, particularly over a short duration, they're more likely to add gain. It's not a bug, per-se, but implies that it is worth re-evaluating whether they should be the default in an app like Forge. BTW, you can change the defaults for all effects in prefs in Forge 10, and from the right-click context menu inside the plug-in dialog in Forge 9 (and 10). J.

Subject:Fade in/fade out bug in 10.0a

Date:11/30/2009 1:30:50 PM

A month ago I reported a bug in the fade in/fade out feature - not the tool under the Process menu, but the feature that blends the edges of a selection when an effect is applied. I first discovered this bug while using the Smooth/Enhance tool - when applied to a selection (i.e. not the whole file), it amplifies the edges of the selection. With four repeated applications of Smooth/Enhance it amplifies the edges to clipping. The problem doesn't happen if I set the fade-in/fade-out times to zero. I found the problem also happens with the graphic equalizer.

I originally reported this problem on October 30. A tech support representative asked me to give them a project file demonstrating the problem, which I did on November 3. SInce then I haven't heard anything from Sony. This bug is a show-stopper for me - I won't be able to use 10.0 until it is fixed.

Has anyone else run into this problem? Can anyone at Sony tell me the status of this bug?

Subject:RE: Fade in/fade out bug in 10.0a

Reply by: ForumAdmin

Date:11/30/2009 2:26:38 PM

Have you tried changing the curves to linear fades? With certain effects that do not significantly modify phase, short fades with the default fast/slow curves can add gain.

J.

Subject:RE: Fade in/fade out bug in 10.0a

Reply by: Jeff Lichtman

Date:12/1/2009 10:32:40 PM

I just tried it with linear fade-in/fade-out and it solved the problem. Thanks!

Can you explain why the default sometimes adds gain? Does this mean that this isn't really a bug?

Thanks again.

Subject:RE: Fade in/fade out bug in 10.0a

Reply by: ForumAdmin

Date:12/2/2009 9:35:57 AM

The default curves (slow-out/fast-in) typically sound "better" for longer fades or fades of two different sources. But are not unity-gain (they're parabolic).

In a wet/dry scenario, particularly over a short duration, they're more likely to add gain.

It's not a bug, per-se, but implies that it is worth re-evaluating whether they should be the default in an app like Forge.

BTW, you can change the defaults for all effects in prefs in Forge 10, and from the right-click context menu inside the plug-in dialog in Forge 9 (and 10).

J.