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earthrisers wrote on 10/8/2009, 10:47 AM
The Digital Juice website does NOT list Vegas as a supported app for this plugin. And the website says that if the app is not listed, it is not supported.
Tech Diver wrote on 10/8/2009, 11:21 AM
These Boris Continuum filters can only be used as a plugin in Vegas if you have Boris Red. Futhermore, any Boris plugin that requires multiple frames (Vegas only supplies one at a time) must be run in Red while in stand-alone mode. The motion tracking family of Boris Continuum filters all require the entire clip.

I have Boris Red (a really excellent product) and the wire remover works great. Again, it must be run in stand-alone mode. However, you can use that filter as a Vegas plugin (through Red) if you set the media reference to the video clip instead of the V1 stream coming out of Vegas.

By the way, I'm not sure what this has to do with Digital Juice.

Peter
rs170a wrote on 10/8/2009, 11:27 AM
Peter, the Digital Juice tie-in is that they regularly have 1/2 price sales on a wide range of "partner product" software.
This is how I got Excalibur for half-price a few months ago.

Mike
Coursedesign wrote on 10/8/2009, 11:28 AM
I want to use the wire remover feature to remove lens flaring (bright blue and pink vertical lines)...

For that problem, I think RE:Vision RE:Fill would do a better job in less time for half the price ($99.95).

It needs either After Effects, Premiere Pro, Final Cut Pro or a few other apps to run though. Early versions are OK.

There have been many times when I wished Vegas had an After Effects-compatible plug-in API...
Tech Diver wrote on 10/8/2009, 2:01 PM
Mike, thanks for clarifying the DJ connection. Sounds like they have some pretty good deals.

Peter
Byron K wrote on 10/9/2009, 12:04 AM
Thanks for the replies and recommendations!

Purchasing Boris Red ($995) is out and purchasing After Effects, Premiere Pro, Final Cut Pro are also out.

I just purchased Vegas pro 9 and really like it but as I'm getting more familiar with it I am starting to notice that there many cool add-ons that are NOT compatible w/ Vegas?? Whats up with that?

Is it that hard to integrate software w/ Sony Vegas or the software companies cant get their code to work w/ Vegas or do the software companies think that Vegas is a lower life-form NLE not worth making their software compatible? ...or is it just plain market share, time invested little/no ROI w/ Vegas because we're using a higher life-form NLE / user base who usually can find workarounds to almost any problem. (I dont know if I can find a work around to the flairing though short of rendering to png sequence and editing every frame... uh!) (;
Tech Diver wrote on 10/9/2009, 9:25 AM
In my opinion there are two main obstacles:
First, the market share for plugin developers investing in the Vegas platform is defintely less than for other products like After Effects. Second, the approach that Vegas takes in passing one frame at a time to the plugin limits what a plugin is capable of doing.

Peter
Byron K wrote on 10/9/2009, 10:54 AM
Thanks Peter!
JohnnyRoy wrote on 10/9/2009, 11:56 AM
> These Boris Continuum filters can only be used as a plugin in Vegas if you have Boris Red.

More importantly... the BCC Motion Tracker is already part of Boris RED!!! So there is no need to buy it if you have Boris RED.

One nice thing about Boris RED is that it can host most After Effects plug-ins (not all of them so you have to be careful). I have a bunch of DigiEffects AE plug-ins that run in Vegas via Boris RED just fine.

~jr
kentwolf wrote on 10/9/2009, 1:25 PM
>>...More importantly... the BCC Motion Tracker is already part of Boris RED!!!...

I have Red 4 and I am pretty sure that a run-of-the-mill Continuum Complete plugin will not work in Red unless specifically stated that it will. It requires the Continuum Complete interface (seperate purchase).

I had the bright idea to see what Continuum Complete filters I wanted to get, though not owning Continuum Complete. I was going to run them in Red. Downloaded some demos of the specific plugins to use in Red 4.

It didn't work that way.

I am pretty sure that I am correct in saying that for the Digital Juice CC plugins sales you must already own Continuum Complete. I do not recall that being stated anywhere, but I wasn't looking all that hard.

It seems that Boris FX has been doing a lot on the Continuum Complete front, it almost seems like Red and Blue (3d app), both of which I own are not receiving any more development. I hope that is not the case.
Tech Diver wrote on 10/9/2009, 3:16 PM
Based on some email exchanges with the some of the guys at Boris, I have the distinct impression that there will be a Red version 5. Also, if you install any Continuum Complete filter with the AE-4 interface option it should run fine in Red. The AE-5 interface option will not work, as it is completely different.

Peter
Coursedesign wrote on 10/9/2009, 7:10 PM
I am pretty sure that I am correct in saying that for the Digital Juice CC plugins sales you must already own Continuum Complete.

The Motion Tracker is just one plug-in out of the complete BCC collection. It works standalone (in AE, etc.) just like the rest of the collection.