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Subject:How can I make SF5 doesn't create 'sfk' file automatically?
Posted by: rockumus
Date:3/14/2001 6:30:23 AM
It's quite annoying that SoundForge 5 make 'sfk' file automatically whenever I open 'wav' file. How can I make this program doesn't create 'sfk' file automatically? I think 4.5 version didn't create automatically. |
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Subject:RE: How can I make SF5 doesn't create 'sfk' file automatically?
Reply by: htk
Date:3/14/2001 7:54:47 AM
Your absolutely right, SF 4.5 which i do still have installed for using CDA does at least not keep the .sfk files after save/close. SF5 creates and keeps a .sfk file even when you open a .mp3. 3 Weeks ago i contacted Sonic Foundry Support for that and some other things. Q: 2) SF5 does not delete the .sfk Files after saving/closing the Files, like previous Versions did. A:Sound Forge 4.0, 4.5 and 5.0 all create .sfk files and do not delete them. This should not be anything new. Best regards, Lance Linimon Sonic Foundry Technical Support That's for sure is absolutely wrong. Maybe they fired the wrong guys back in January. |
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Subject:RE: How can I make SF5 doesn't create 'sfk' file automatically?
Reply by: CDM
Date:3/14/2001 9:21:28 AM
I've never had any version of Sound Forge erase .sfk files.... |
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Subject:RE: How can I make SF5 doesn't create 'sfk' file automatically?
Reply by: sreams
Date:3/14/2001 10:37:21 AM
I think you are the one that has it wrong, friend. .sfk files are not deleted by any version. Haven't you noticed that when opening a file in 4.5 that "Building Peaks" only occurs the first time? Any subsequent openings are instantaneous. -S |
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Subject:RE: How can I make SF5 doesn't create 'sfk' file automatically?
Reply by: htk
Date:3/14/2001 10:40:49 AM
Maybe there was no need to erase a .sfk because it was no .sfk created before. Ok, i do have both versions installed,(SF4.5/SF5), so just a short example. 1)I do have a folder on partition G named Cash,Johnny. Stored in this folder are some mp3-files, one of them named "After the Ball". 2)Both Versions have set I:\SF_PreProcessed\ as Temp Storage Folder. When i open the above mentionend mp3-file with SF4.5 in I:\SF_PreProcessed\ 4 Files get created FLOCK000.TMP FORGE000.TMP FORGECUT.TMP FPEAK.TMP When i save the file, and answer the reopen-question with no, 3 of them are gone. FORGECUT.TMP stays there until i exit out of SF4.5. When I open the same file with SF5 in I:\SF_PreProcessed\ again 4 new files get created: FLOCK000.TMP FORGE000.TMP FORGECUT.TMP SFKT000.TMP PLUS, in Folder Cash, Johnny on partion G there is a new File: After the Ball.mp3.sfk When i now save the file it's nearly the same as in SF4.5 3 of the entries in the Temp Folder are gone. FORGECUT.TMP disappears when i exit out of SF5, but the .mp3.sfk-file is still there. And if i edit 100 mp3-files i do have 100 of those .sfk files, each of them approx. 118k, on my drive. |
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Subject:RE: How can I make SF5 doesn't create 'sfk' file automatically?
Reply by: Ted_H
Date:3/14/2001 11:00:21 AM
That's correct, all versions of Sound Forge create sfk files, and none of them delete the files upon closing. This would be pointless because the sfk files are the files that contain the peak data, and deleting them when the file is closed would increase your loading time tremendously. I think you owe Lance an apology :-) Ted |
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Subject:RE: How can I make SF5 doesn't create 'sfk' file automatically?
Reply by: htk
Date:3/14/2001 11:19:56 AM
I am sorry Ted, but there is no .sfk in this scenario i gave under SF4.5. Neither after saving the original nor while it is open. |
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Subject:RE: How can I make SF5 doesn't create 'sfk' file automatically?
Reply by: htk
Date:3/14/2001 11:37:01 AM
and User sreams is right. Every time i close a file and reopen it the Building Peaks Process is running again. |
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Subject:RE: How can I make SF5 doesn't create 'sfk' file automatically?
Reply by: CDM
Date:3/14/2001 12:53:04 PM
let me see if I have this right: you're saying that every time you open a file in Sound Forge that you have to wait for the Building Peaks operation? Are you sure you're not opening files in temp mode and mistaking the time it takes to open a temp file for the time it takes to build peaks. You should see it build peaks the first time and then every time you open that file after that, it should open instantaneously (as long as you're in Direct mode). The .sfk files reside wherever the sound files reside. Isn't that right, Ted? |
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Subject:RE: How can I make SF5 doesn't create 'sfk' file automatically?
Reply by: htk
Date:3/14/2001 1:09:30 PM
yes, you are right. every time it starts with opening..... and after that, Building Peaks.... the left part of the open-dialog is always greyed out, so i dont have a chance to specify: open as read only or operate directly on the sound file. |
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Subject:RE: How can I make SF5 doesn't create 'sfk' file automatically?
Reply by: rockumus
Date:3/14/2001 1:12:04 PM
I've been using SF long before when 4.0 was out and I never had this problem. I think somehow I managed to prevent 'sfk' file created automatically. It's definitely different between previous version and 5.0. I know it's good when I reopen large files but I don't find any merit for small files. It's just taking lots of spaces. Is there any option to prevent this??? |
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Subject:RE: How can I make SF5 doesn't create 'sfk' file automatically?
Reply by: CDM
Date:3/14/2001 6:22:08 PM
aaaaah. Sounds like you are opeing locked files? Read only? |
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Subject:RE: How can I make SF5 doesn't create 'sfk' file automatically?
Reply by: dhucul
Date:3/14/2001 9:36:59 PM
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Subject:RE: How can I make SF5 doesn't create 'sfk' file automatically?
Reply by: Ted_H
Date:3/15/2001 11:35:43 AM
Yes, that's correct. Maybe you are looking in the Sound Forge explorer and you have the file type set to wav. If it was set like that, you wouldn't be able to see the sfk files, but they are there. If you look in the directory from the Windows explorer, you should see the files. There is no way to prevent these from being created. Ted |
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Subject:RE: How can I make SF5 doesn't create 'sfk' file automatically?
Reply by: rockumus
Date:3/16/2001 12:57:48 AM
So, I guess it's not possible to prevent this in SF5... But, for the record, you should know that in previous version (including various 4.5 versions and 4.0), you can control not to remain 'sfk' file after closing SF automatically. Whatever you say it, that's the fact. |
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Subject:RE: How can I make SF5 doesn't create 'sfk' file automatically?
Reply by: sreams
Date:3/16/2001 4:37:15 AM
Okay... if you can control it, where is the control? -S |
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Subject:RE: How can I make SF5 doesn't create 'sfk' file automatically?
Reply by: htk
Date:3/16/2001 5:10:43 AM
Hi Ted, sorry for the delay i had to spent a day in hospital. in my case there are definitely no .sfk under SF4.5 each and everytime i open a file the Building Peaks Process is running. I have checked the Folder via Windows-Explorer while the file is open, no .sfk there, used the search function, no .sfk except 3 or 4 that come with SF. I can remember that there have been .sfk files when i began working with SF4.5, must be around the time wenn 4.5f was the current version and i always had to erase them manually. But this changed i don't know when maybe after the upgrade to 4.5g or maybe after 4.5h. With SF4.5 there is a option, checked by default, Default to smaller 8-bit peak files I don't know when this was introduced, so i unchecked it but it makes no difference, means still no .sfk. with SF4.5 |
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Subject:RE: How can I make SF5 doesn't create 'sfk' file automatically?
Reply by: sreams
Date:3/16/2001 4:17:24 PM
If 4.5 is building peaks each and every time, and not retaining .sfk files... this is a problem with your system or SF4.5. The whole point of building peaks and making .sfk files is so that you never have to do it again. The point is, the way SF4.5 was INTENDED to work was to create and keep .sfk files. If it's not keeping them in place and you like it that way, that's nice, but that is not the way SF was designed to work. It is a bug. -S |
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Subject:RE: How can I make SF5 doesn't create 'sfk' file automatically?
Reply by: htk
Date:3/17/2001 3:21:56 AM
Maybe it is a bug because as i wrote before there have been .sfk files with SF4.5 in the past. And yes, i like the way it is at the moment without .sfk at at least with SF4.5. I am not in the music-producing business, means i don't make my living creating music. All i want to do is converting my audio-cd's, approx. 400, and some Vinyl-LP's about 350 to mp3. I trim/crop them, correct DC-Offset, use the NR and Vinyl- Restoration Plug-Ins and normalize them and save them as .mp3 with 320k HQ When i do have reached approx 700-800mb i burn them on CD, and make a backup with a HP Coloradoa 20GB. after that i erase them from the disc, so i really don't need no .sfk files at all. I'm currently working on Cash, Johnny having burned 6 mp3-cds already,i think after i have reached the end with The Zombies, hopefully at the end of this year i won't need SF any longer. Maybe to produce some Audio-CD's for my daughter. |
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Subject:RE: How can I make SF5 doesn't create 'sfk' file automatically?
Reply by: ATP
Date:3/18/2001 7:53:05 AM
ok just for the record here (cuz you guys are just confusing :)): in SF 4.5: when you open a file in DIRECT MODE, SF will create a .sfk file. this file will NOT be erased when you close SF, it will stay on your HD so that the next time you open the wave (in DIRECT MODE) it will open instantaniously (sp?). if, for some reason, the sfk files DO dissappear, it is a flaw on your part, cause SF 4.5 by default keeps the sfk files. in fact it would be totally pointless to delete them. remember, i'm talking about files opened in DIRECT MODE in SF 4.5 or lower. as for SF5 i too am confused as to why EVERY wave file should have an .sfk addition. for small files it's kinda useless. and since every file is opened like that, why is there still an option to open in DIRECT mode? or has this option been removed i forget. in fact, i haven't used SF5 in a long time, since i couldn't find one single REAL improvement over 4.5. but that's another subject entirely. :) |
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Subject:RE: How can I make SF5 doesn't create 'sfk' file automatically?
Reply by: johnvulich
Date:4/1/2001 9:34:39 AM
My version of 4.5 doesn't create .sfk files either! JV |
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Subject:RE: How can I make SF5 doesn't create 'sfk' file automatically?
Reply by: MacMoney
Date:4/1/2001 1:51:28 PM
Hey Guys Try this go into the folder of the files you would like to open. Hit Crtl+A all the files should be selected,Right mouse click go down to Properties, In the General tab you should only have Archive checked, Hit apply. Go back into Sound Forge, Open and only check Operate directly on sound files.Open files it should Build peaks at this point, close out the files and open that same file and it should open up with out building peaks. I hope this helps George Ware |
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Subject:RE: How can I make SF5 doesn't create 'sfk' file automatically?
Reply by: htk
Date:4/1/2001 5:23:54 PM
Maybe i have not mentioned it before. I have never been able to specify: Open as read only - or - Operate directly on the sound file. No matter what filetype i am going to open. Both fields on the left are greyed out, with both versions SF4.5 & SF5 running under W2k SP1 and have been greyed out in the past running SF4.5 under NT4 SP6 and SP6a. |