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Subject:Acid Pro 2.0 Editing Question
Posted by: naes
Date:3/6/2001 8:48:13 PM
I'm having trouble figuring out how to insert only a portion of a loop in my Acid projects. I've read through the manuals and the Sonic Foundry knowledge base. In several of the provided projects (that come with Acid and many of the loop packs) play only sections of loops (i.e. if there is a 30 second loop, they may only play the 20 seconds starting 5 sec in and ending 5 sec before the end of the loop). How are they doing this? Every time I use the draw tool to lay down a loop it lays down the entire loop, if I try to select a portion of it, I end-up selecting the whole thing. Thanks for any tips you could offer. Naes |
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Subject:RE: Acid Pro 2.0 Editing Question
Reply by: S N C
Date:3/6/2001 10:26:56 PM
1. Paint the loop to a track as you have been doing. Move back the end of the loop to your desired finish point (Check your 'snap to' settings if you have problems with this). 2. Double click on the loop to open the properties window for it. 3. Select the event tab in the properties. 4. Either enter a 'start offset' in samples, or (more easily) drag the tiny little blue tab in the top left of the waveform display across the waveform to the desired start offset. That's it! If you want to do this for each loop cycle on the same track, you will have to continually copy the version you have just painted. Alternately, you can either: a) edit the loop (using sound forge or similar)to chop out what you don't want. b) within Acid, paint a single instance of the loop to a track, set the loop to the whole project, and then mix to a new track. This will create a new .WAV file with a copy of the loop from the start offset until wherever you finished painting it. |
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Subject:RE: Acid Pro 2.0 Editing Question
Reply by: Bandar
Date:3/9/2001 11:51:59 AM
naes: cusminic's suggestion is a good one, but what you want to accomplish can be done in several ways. My preferred method is: 1) Align the cursor at either your desired start or finish point for the loop 2) Right-click on the loop. A menu will pop up; choose "Split at Cursor." The loop will, obviously, split into two spearate parts. Then, left-click on the portion of the loop that you want to delete, right-click and choose "Delete." I find this method quicker than cusminic's, because I'm doing all of the editing in a single window. A couple of notes: 1) Select "Draw" from the Edit/Tools menu. Place the pencil cursor over the desired loop and hold down the left mouse button and control and shift keys all simultaneously. If you drag the mouse left and right, you can move the contents of the loop accordingly. 2) On the scroll bar at the bottom of the active window, move the cursor around one tip of it until you see little directional arrows pointing to the left and right. At this point, if you click and hold the bar and shrink it, you can see the loops in your window stretch and magnify accordingly. Used with the "Split at Cursor" command, this is an incredibly precise way to chop loops. 3) Cusminic is right about the snap-to grid. Toggle it off and on with the F8 key. I always work with it off (more precise editing that way). Hope this helps. |
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Subject:RE: Acid Pro 2.0 Editing Question
Reply by: naes
Date:3/13/2001 7:10:14 PM
Bandar/cusminic, Thank you very much for the help, this was exactly what I was looking for (Bandar's approach is particularly easy). I'm quite surprised that this isn't in the manual, or atleast easier to find in the manual. Thanks again, Naes |
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Subject:RE: Acid Pro 2.0 Editing Question
Reply by: naes
Date:3/14/2001 7:21:32 PM
Bandar, I have one more question for you, tonight while playing around in Acid, I attempted to delete the end of a one-shot sample (i.e. the right-side). I'm trying to cut a voice- snippet out of the middle of one of the samples provided with the Methods of Mayhem loop pak -- unfortunately, it only lets me delete the left side of the one-shot and on the right side. I can do this fine with loops, but for some reason it doesn't work with one-shots -- any ideas as to what I'm doing wrong? |
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Subject:RE: Acid Pro 2.0 Editing Question
Reply by: Iacobus
Date:3/15/2001 3:13:46 PM
Usually, I use Sound Forge XP (which comes with ACID Pro) to isolate the portion of a One-shot. Just drag to select the portion of the track you want and use Ctrl+T on your keyboard. HTH, Iacobus |
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Subject:RE: Acid Pro 2.0 Editing Question
Reply by: Bandar
Date:3/15/2001 4:33:42 PM
Naes: Iacubus is correct; if you are using Pro, then you can edit the one-shot in SF XP. A faster way to accomplish what you're after in Acid is to select the Properties tab at the bottom right of the screen. You will then see two tabs in the bottom left: Track and Events. From the dropdown menu under Track, change the Track type "one-shot" to either "disk-based" or loop. You can now make the changes you want. Changing the Track type from "one-shot" to the others will alter the waveform a little. I don't know if there are inherent complications to this, but I haven't come across any. I don't know why Acid won't let the user chop a one-shot; it might be a bug or just a limitation of the software or something else entirely. Despite my suggestion, you are probably going to want to start playing around with Sound Forge sooner or later; it's a good way to take loops that thousands of other people have and put your own spin on them. Hope this helps. |
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Subject:RE: Acid Pro 2.0 Editing Question
Reply by: naes
Date:3/18/2001 2:18:07 PM
Iacobus/Bandar, Thank you very much. I figured out Bandar solution shortly after my original post. But I'll start looking into SF XP (Acid Pro came with so much that I haven't quite gotten around to checking all of the tools out yet). |