9.0a to wait or not to wait....

epirb wrote on 6/15/2009, 9:24 AM
have the V9 trial, but would really like to see the 9.0a update before i take the plunge. I have always upgraded imeadiately in the past. but I do see a few issues that i would like to see if they are resovled before i take the upgrade offer. The freebees with the introductory offer dont move me too much as i already have new blue etc..
Just money is a bit tighter this year and blah blah blah...
But i dont recall how soon after 8 weas out before we saw 8.0a?
i know its purley speculation but anybody believe they might be far enough along to release 9.0 before the upgrade offer expires?

Im using the 64 bit version which I like but has anyone noticed sometime upon opening a project it doesnt recognize just about every format esp m2t's? shut down and restart and all fine..just kinda strange...

Comments

Tech Diver wrote on 6/15/2009, 10:52 AM
I think it is very difficult to speculate about the update schedule because it depends so much on the complexity of the areas of the software that need to be fixed. There is also a long cycle of regression testing that must be done in conjunction with the software changes. It all comes down to a balance of time, features and resources. You can only constrain a maximum of two out of the three parameters.

In any case, because money is rather tight for me too, I specifically took advantage of the upgrade offer even though I will definitely not install it until v9a is available. If you wait too long (past the end of June) it will cost you at least $50 more. Additionally, I have already gotten a great amount of use from the free Sound Forge Studio option. I was finally able to ditch Audacity (which replaced the even-worse Nero audio tool).

Peter
gpsmikey wrote on 6/15/2009, 3:56 PM
I remember someone here a while back commented that with version 8, it was something like 39 days or some such before 8a was out which gives me hope that it is not too far off. I did take advantage of the upgrade, but have not installed it yet - I will wait for 9a as well (and have plenty of things to keep me busy like rebuilding the back deck that is getting dangerous after 33 years ! ). I'm hoping 9a will be out soon though !

mikey
ushere wrote on 6/15/2009, 4:08 PM
well, if i was sony, i probably wouldn't release 9a whilst i had a special offer on for early adopters, because if they did, there's one customer here who'd wait next time around!!!!
John_Cline wrote on 6/15/2009, 8:53 PM
"well, if i was sony, i probably wouldn't release 9a whilst i had a special offer on for early adopters, because if they did, there's one customer here who'd wait next time around!!!!"

That makes no sense whatsoever.

By the way, you can have both v8 and v9 installed at the same time. If you bought v9, there is no reason not to install it.
ushere wrote on 6/15/2009, 10:03 PM
well jc, what i meant was having bought 9 early to get the discount, and found it wanting in a few areas, i'd have held out IF i could get 9a at the same discount price.....

make sense?

leslie

btw, i do have 8 and 9 installed, and find working with 9 a little iffy at times, especially the poor preview rate, and the run up to full frame playback.....
John_Cline wrote on 6/15/2009, 10:07 PM
"make sense?"

It does now.
DGates wrote on 6/15/2009, 10:41 PM
I'd wait for version C at least.
rmack350 wrote on 6/15/2009, 10:46 PM
I'm still kind of on the fence about this. V9 has lots of promise but I'm just not so sure I want to pay for an upgrade when so much in V9 seems to need fixing. Is it worth it to save $50.00 on software that's not ready to use, or is it better to keep 189.00 in my pocket for a few months?

Maybe I'll spend the money around the end of the month but I don't feel the urgency and could wait for 9b or 9c. I could even wait for 10a and save about $200.00.

Rob Mack

ushere wrote on 6/15/2009, 11:09 PM
hey rob,

what's in 10?

;-)
ritsmer wrote on 6/15/2009, 11:10 PM
I'm still kind of on the fence about this. V9 has lots of promise but I'm just not so sure I want to pay for an upgrade when so much in V9 seems to need fixing.

Strange - I downloaded 9.0 x64 on the release day.
Installed it.
And it runs beautifully - and for all it previews super and renders about 4 (four) times so fast as my 8.0c.
I must admit, humbly, however, that I just use it for my daily work...

But -Some people around seem to get satisfaction from turning Vegas upside down and shake it to see if they can find something and write: "See ME - ME found a BUG".

Sad - that their little hobby can give such an impression that other users consider not to upgrade - thus keeping them from clear advantages in the new version.

ScorpioProd wrote on 6/15/2009, 11:23 PM
I can only speak for my own experience also making a living with Vegas Pro 9 full time, and except for Satish's DebugMode Frameserver not being compatible with it yet (which I hope gets resolved very soon), I'm very happy with the 32-bit 9.0.

I keep 8.0c installed as well, but I've been doing everything in 9.0 since I installed it.

And on my pretty old computer, the preview playback improvements in 9 are very worthwhile. It's quite an amazing difference, actually.
John_Cline wrote on 6/16/2009, 1:26 AM
I'm using v9 all the time myself. I haven't found any problems that prevent me from getting my work done. Like I've said before, for every person that's here complaining about Vegas v9, there are hundreds, if not thousands more using v9 without issues.

Unless you have first-hand experience with v9, then statements like "...so much in V9 seems to need fixing" or "I'd wait for version C at least" is just spreading "F.U.D."
blink3times wrote on 6/16/2009, 3:03 AM
I've run into a few minor issues with V9 but overall I find it even more smooth and stable than V8 was.
ushere wrote on 6/16/2009, 3:07 AM
well, i have to say i have had, and am experiencing some (widely noted) 'problems' in 9 that i don't have in 8...

i appreciate that there's many people running 9 without problems, and i'm very happy for them, but to write anyone off with a valid problem as a whinger is somewhat blase and rather pompous.

i make my living from video production, and i also teach it (from university level downwards), and have nothing but praise for vegas in general, it's an nle i wholeheartedly recommend to all my students...

but, if i knew i could buy 9a at the same discounted price i bought 9, i would have waited.

9 is certainly faster overall, the incorporated vm filters very impressive, the speed of rendering amazing, etc., etc.,but there are problems in 9, i'm using it, and experiencing them - and they weren't / aren't in 8.....

leslie
John_Cline wrote on 6/16/2009, 3:14 AM
Leslie, since you bought v9 and are having problems, then you have purchased the right to report your findings and the right to complain.
DGates wrote on 6/16/2009, 4:10 AM
Ritmer - Sad - that their little hobby can give such an impression that other users consider not to upgrade - thus keeping them from clear advantages in the new version.

It's not sad when Sony's protocol has always been to use these same people as the final round of beta testers.

Don't whine about the messenger.
John_Cline wrote on 6/16/2009, 4:40 AM
How many times does this have to be said... there is no way that SCS (or any other software comapny) can possibly find each and every issue in the closed beta testing phase.

I have absolutely no problem whatsoever paying for a new version of Vegas and waiting a month or two for the "0a" version once the bug reports have come in from the field. It never fails, a new version of Vegas comes out and some people claim that the new version is crap and that they will never buy the new version. I guess if they actually did stay with the previous version, some people would still be running version 1.

Premiere CS4 has been out for quite a while and there are some very serious issues which have yet to be resolved. I have CS4 and it's junk. I use Adobe Encore for DVD authoring and there were serious, wide-spread, repeatable issues with the CS3 version that NEVER got fixed.
blink3times wrote on 6/16/2009, 5:04 AM
I have always said it's not the bugs that are the problem because they ALL have bugs.... it's the time it takes to fix them that's the issue and SCS is rather remarkable as compared to others in fixing the issues in a FAST and effective manor. ALL of the issues that I put tickets in with V8 are fixed in V9.... AND..... of all the tickets I have put in thus far on V9 have been answered within a single business day. This is nothing short of OUTSTANDING in this industry.

Now... are there some new bugs in V9? Sure there are.... as I expected (and if you didn't think there would be then all I can say is...... Naive). But tickets have gone in on them and as usual SCS has promptly responded, taken note of them, and stated they would be fixed in the next update.

I for one can't POSSIBLY ask for anything better. This kind of service I know for a fact (and through experience outshoots Avid by MILES.

You need to do your part though. If you see an issue that you (or others) can repro then stop your whining and get a ticket in on it!!!! SCS can't fix it if they're not aware it exists. Does this make you a beta tester? NO. In fact... what a pile of RUBBISH It simply makes you a USER that has found a bug.
blink3times wrote on 6/16/2009, 5:09 AM
"It's not sad when Sony's protocol has always been to use these same people as the final round of beta testers."

You haven't the faintest friggin idea how Sony works all of this and tests it all out... and if you did you would most likely be under NDA..... so stop making things up.
Jay Gladwell wrote on 6/16/2009, 5:11 AM

Blink, just as a friendly reminder from the Terms of Service regarding the fourm we've all agreed to not...

2. Transmit any content, using any of the Services, that Sony Creative Software and/or any governmental agency considers to be disruptive, unlawful, harmful, threatening, abusive, harassing, defamatory, (emphasis added).

Thanks!


blink3times wrote on 6/16/2009, 5:19 AM
"Blink, just as a friendly reminder ...."

Edited the above content for ya!
Jay Gladwell wrote on 6/16/2009, 5:28 AM

Thank you.

DGates wrote on 6/16/2009, 6:21 AM
2. Transmit any content, using any of the Services, that Sony Creative Software and/or any governmental agency considers to be disruptive, unlawful, harmful, threatening, abusive, harassing, defamatory, vulgar, obscene, hateful, racially, ethnically or otherwise objectionable... (emphasis added).

Honestly, I'm quite surprised he's still on the board.
Xander wrote on 6/16/2009, 6:21 AM
Personally, I am still on the fence. I work with Cineform AVI files and 12 MPixel images. Both of which seem to have issues in Vegas 9 (low memory issues). Looks like the avi issue has a temporary workaround for the 32bit version. Doesn't help for the 64bit version, so basically, I ain't seeing any new features that are of use in my case.

I have gotten used to the kinks in Vegas 8c so can actually work with that now. Guess, I will make my decision on June 29.