Subject:Midi Punch In, Punch Out

Posted by: Wizz

Date:6/6/2009 6:54:31 AM

My first version of Acid was Acid 2.0 purchased in 1999. Did not like it very much, did not like the concept of using loops to make a songs. I was use to playing the song's parts with a keyboard and tracking either using Midi or just recording audio to tracks using a keyboard that I played.

About a year or two ago, just to give my son something to oocupy some free time, I showed him some basics of Acid 2.0. He caught on with it and started to create some songs. He began to create some good songs. Then I thought about upgrading to a later version and finnally did. I purchased Acid 7.0 for him sence he was getting good at using the program and coming up with song good songs. Since Acid now have MIDI and Audio, he asked me to lay down a keyboard solo on one of his tracks with mostly loops. Hey I thought that was cool, and became more interested in learning and using Acid 7.

Later on another song of his he wanted me help with a MIDI track, because he is not a proficient keyboard player, and I told him that the MIDI track can be easily edited if you want to fix small mistakes and timing of a few notes. Anyway he asded me to lay down the MIDI track. It was a bass line. I layed down the bass line for about 8 bars and it clashed with the drum fill in the 8th measure. I said that I don't have to record the whole thing over I can just do a punch in , punch out for the 8th measure of the bass track. Through serching the help and contacting technical support, Acid does not have MIDI Punch in and Punch out. Come on guys, Acid needs MIDI punch in and Punch out. This is not acceptable for a DAW to claim to have extensive MIDI capablities.

I was beginning to like the concept of Acid. Since my son uses the loops for song creation and I can play parts using a keyboard. I was looking forward to doing some collaboration of songs with my son.

For the next upgrade can you guys please provide MIDI punch in, punch out. It is a common feature for MIDI recording such that the other DAWs has it (Sonar, Cubase, etc. ) and even the keyboard workstation , i.e. Motif, Fantom, M3, etc., have the feature. Actually it been around since the tape recorder days.

Subject:RE: Midi Punch In, Punch Out

Reply by: pwppch

Date:6/6/2009 1:24:06 PM

For the next upgrade can you guys please provide MIDI punch in, punch out.

ACID Pro 7 - and 6 - have MIDI punch in recording. There are a number of ways to do this depending on what you want to accomplish.

- Arm the MIDI track, hit play, and manually punch in with the record button on the transport.

- select the region you want to punch in at and you can punch in automatically.

- create an empty event where you want to punch into and select it. Arm the track for record, hit play or record and ACID will record into the new event.

- Use the merge feature to record into existing events.


Is there a specific mode you are use to working in that you could describe?

Peter


Peter

Subject:RE: Midi Punch In, Punch Out

Reply by: Wizz

Date:6/7/2009 7:25:23 PM

Hey thanks for the response SonyPCH. I like the second method that you listed. The first method may require two individuals because it is hard to hit record and play a midi keyboard at the same time. I tried the second method and it works great. It appears that you may need to elaborate more in your documentation on how it works because it not explained very well.

For example, you can set a loop region, it can be from the beginning of measure 8, beat 1, punch in location, to the beginning of measure, 9 beat 1, punch out location. I turned loop off, started from the beginning, measure 1, of the phrase and it did not record until the cursor got to the loop region and stop recording when the cursor passed the loop region. This will work for me.

Thanks.

Subject:RE: Midi Punch In, Punch Out

Reply by: technicaltitch

Date:6/8/2009 2:13:32 AM

The help in the help menu is much more detailed than the quick start manual.

Subject:RE: Midi Punch In, Punch Out

Reply by: pwppch

Date:6/10/2009 11:16:06 AM

The first method may require two individuals because it is hard to hit record and play a midi keyboard at the same time.

One thing you can do to make it a one person job:

Depending on your external keyboard or other available external MIDI devices, you can set up a Generic Control Surface to control the transport functionality of ACID.

The ideal approach is to use a foot switch assigned to Record.

If your keyboard has multiple foot switch inputs, then set one up to use a foot switch for non performance type parameters. You then add a Generic Control Surface device and configure the transport functionality for Record to listen to this foot switch - or any button on your device.

Note that if this is your main keyboard, you can still use it for MIDI recording. Only those MIDI msgs that you assign to functionality in the Generic Control driver will be filtered out from your normal MIDI Input recording.

Peter