You can use a DVI-hdmi adapter. That should open up your choice of graphics cards.

Rob Mack

Thank you. I have a Radeon HD 4850 card on this machine and I think we tried the dvi out on it and it was basically slightly blurred with jagged edges to lines. Not good for a preview while editing. Plus vegas does not see this card under the preview folder. If I had 2 would that show up in vegas to use?
David

P.s. I don't need to use this for capturing. I just need to see the actual HDV footage as it was shot.

I have a 3850 & vegas sees both my DVI out's no problem. Just checked.

Odds are it's a setting you have wrong. Make sure you don't have it stretching the video too & you'll need the preview on good-full or better.

You can get the Asus 4670 ATI card for $69.99 and it has a HDMI out.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121274

Great card for the money IMO.

I haven't tried the HDMI out for previews though so I can't tell you how well that works.

How about an accelerator like the matrox line. Do these work with vegas? I just noticed while playing with the black magic that I can get it to playback the hdv video perfectly but if you add an intensive fx like New blue's painted fx to it? Comes to a halt. Freezes up the picture.
Thus I am thinking I might need to buy an accelerator break out?
Thank you for the help here guys. I mean that.
Does this sound correct?
David

Which Matrox line are you thinking about? Axio? Doesn't work with Vegas. In fact, no accelerator does.

You're playing out to a 1920x1080 digital TV. Most graphics cards put out 1920x1200 so it might be that you were seeing some nasty scaling when you looked at the graphics card output on that TV. You'd probably want to find a graphics card that can put out true 1920x1080. Those have started appearing on the market recently, I think.

To do this with Vegas, you need to choose Windows Secondary Display as your preview device.

If your computer will support 2 graphics cards then you can get a second card and use it for the preview output. You'd be able to drive three screens this way -- two for workspace and one for your preview monitor. Otherwise, you'd use one card driving two displays, one of which will be your preview monitor, the other is your workspace.

Vista requires all the graphics cards to use the same driver, so if you have an ATI card and install a second card, that one also needs to be an ATI card. Windows 7 is supposed to ease up on this requirement but then again you wouldn't trust your edit station to an OS that isn't a final release, right?

The only thing about using a graphics card for your display device is that the card is probably not be designed for critical viewing. It might be tuned to give you a bright, snappy, happy image that looks great with video games but is hell to color correct with. I'm assuming your Intensity card would be better if it only worked.

Rob Mack

"The only thing about using a graphics card for your display device is that the card is probably not be designed for critical viewing. It might be tuned to give you a bright, snappy, happy image that looks great with video games but is hell to color correct with. I'm assuming your Intensity card would be better if it only worked."

That might be true with some cards. The Nvidia cards have software ("Control Panel") that allow you to adjust the card, as you would a monitor. This has allowed me to adjust my computer monitor and my 1920x1080p HD display to visually match my production monitor, which is a CRT.

And you really don't need two card. I'm outputting to the HD device with one card. It has two DVi outs--one DVi to DVi on the computer monitor and one DVi to HDMI on the HD device. Unless, like Rob says, you're driving three screens.

ATI & Nvidia let you control the output of the card. But the monitor allowed you too. Most likely you're better off doing that.

My ATI card says it can do 1920x1080, I just checked. I'm sure nvidias can too.

I have several machines with nVidia 9000 series cards driving 42" LCD monitors. I use the Colorvision Spyder3 hardware color calibration device to calibrate the monitors and they look great. The nVidia cards will definitely do 1920x1080.

Ok so no accelerators.
When you apply fx to your hdv videos while previewing, do you get a freeze of the frame or anything as such? If I view on the computer's preview in vegas it is fine but going out thru the Intensity pro becomes frozen as the audio rolls along fine.
Hmmm. The radeon does have the dual dvi outs. Maybe I should look at this again.

David

There ya go. quite a few cards will do 1920x1080. Time flies and it's probably been two years since we were looking at this on the computers and DTVs our client was manufacturing, so things have improved.

Yes, the only need for a second card is if you want more than two total displays. If you're running a core i7 then you've probably got the slots for it, so that's a plus.

It looks like David got his Intensity card working in the other thread so this whole thread might be moot for him. <edit> Looks like I spoke too soon</edit>

Rob

Gotta get in the car now but I'd search the forum for Windows Secondary Display.

Rob

No moot here. I did get it to go but it doesn't seem to work well with 2 tracks of video. Gets a bit sluggish and some fx freeze her up. When you guys have this problem do you just prerender the fx spot to see the results in realtime? I believe some one said this as well.
Too bad the Intensity doesn't work with Vegas 8.1 64 bit.
Sad.
David

David;
Why do you need HDMI out on a card to run an LCD monitor? HDMI and DVI are the same thing with only different plugs. I have an EVGA GeForce 9500 GT1Gb card running 2 x Dell 2209 LCD monitors with 1680 x 1050 resolution, connected by DVI.
This is an inexpensive card that has more than enough power to run both the Vegas Pro application on one monitor screen and a full screen preview running at best > full on the other.
$54.99 at NewEgg;http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130395
or Amazon;
http://www.amazon.com/EVGA-01G-P3-N959TR-GeForce-PCI-Express-Graphics/dp/B001ENI3C4
Cheers,
Hal

Thank you Hal. I am a learning as I go. Gee I miss my panasonic ntsc monitor about now LOL.
David
P.s. Are you running windows vista 64?

As you have an ATi 4850, have you checked the Catalyst control centre monitor settings - somewhere in there should be a setting controlling whether the card(GPU) or the monitor does the scaling if the display and monitor resolutions are different. The bluring and stepping you are getting is probably poor monitor scaling - the GPU should do it better.

I'd also check that (if you have 2 monitors connected) that the displays are not in 'clone' mode - it's possible that this may stop Vegas seeing the second display - just a thought....

Tony

No - I'm running Windows Seven (32), RC build 7100 and Vegas Pro 9 going strong.

I have the Intensity working and also the ATI works fine as well for the vegas 64bit version. My next big question is this. As I add fx the preview starts to slow dropping frames so does this mean in a work flow situation you need to stay on preview with fx being used so you can see realtime video? Once I display this on the lcd of course using the preview setting it is blurry.
Is this normal?
David
I also should add I am using a raid setup. Raid 0