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Subject:Thank you SCS/ACID Team
Posted by: kbruff
Date:2/17/2009 7:14:35 AM

I advanced on a major project this week with AP7

*** 40 Stereo tracks at 48Khz/24bit
*** 8 Waves (Version 6 - VST ) Processors
*** 2 IK Multimedia CSR reverbs
*** Izotope 4 on my Master Channel

Tons of automation of volume, panning and reverb.

Acid performed perfectly no hitches, everything perfectly synchronized - the result a project brought 85% completion.

Another success story,

I did 90 minute live recording of a band, 8 mono tracks at 44/24 again not a single hitch -- everything worked perfectly.

Thanks You

Subject:RE: Thank you SCS/ACID Team
Reply by: guitacid
Date:2/17/2009 1:34:09 PM

Great stuff Kevin.

In your project did you use all loops or did you record some instruments?

What's your system spec? I need to upgrade my own 'puter so I'd be keen to know what works well.


Subject:RE: Thank you SCS/ACID Team
Reply by: jumbuk
Date:2/17/2009 2:00:36 PM

Same as him, plus what audio interface are you using?

Subject:RE: Thank you SCS/ACID Team
Reply by: kbruff
Date:2/17/2009 2:22:19 PM

This may come as a surprise to some of you...

XP Pro Service pack 3
Pentium 4 last generation model speed 3 Ghz
Memory 4 GB DDR (3 GB recognized by OS)
Audio interface -- built in sound card (amazing huh)

My computer is not at all optimized for audio, I have the ability to optimize I just choose not to.

I also multi-task very heavily when I do any work, check email, scan images, go to You Tube and watch cute kittens, etc.

I always render my midi tracks to audio, since when I am in stage of production where I am no longer creating but mixing I typically off load all VI's.

But during the creation phase I had the following operating with perfect results:

IK Multimedia Sample Tank
IK Multimedia Sonic Synth
IK Multimedia Moog
Native Instruments FM7
Spectrsonics Trilogy

Again the system peformed very nicely.

Therefore I had only loops that I had already developed so that I can use them and then recylce bits and pieces here and there.

For the Multi-track recording I used a M-Audio Interface FW410 with Octane ADAT 8 Channel interface.

Now I dont mean to challenge anyone but my system is qualified to run Pro-Tools 7/8 but it just cant even match the stability of ACID, Vegas, Sound Forge and also FL Studio.

Subject:RE: Thank you SCS/ACID Team
Reply by: jumbuk
Date:2/17/2009 3:43:22 PM

Thanks for info.

AP/SF are the only audio apps I can run off the (slower) D drive on my eeePC without dropouts. FL, Cubase etc all glitch badly. Maybe this is partly due to the Windows-only interface design of the Sony apps?

Subject:RE: Thank you SCS/ACID Team
Reply by: kbruff
Date:2/17/2009 6:32:53 PM

My PC is pretty well stocked and well taken care of, and my FL studio is pretty solid and works very well.

Subject:RE: Thank you SCS/ACID Team
Reply by: SHTUNOT
Date:2/17/2009 6:50:43 PM

Just to add my 2 cents...

So far I'm getting alot of work done in 7.0a. Again no show stoppers.

My new workflow has been great and I'm loving the sound.

Guitar is recorded via a Shector 7 string. [10-60gauge] I use Guitar rig 3.2 for guitar distortion. I also record my Soldano 100watt via a 4X4 straight cab bottom into a Sennheiser E609 silver mic.

Bass is recorded via a Ibanez 5 string into a Line 6 Bass Pod Pro into my input of my soundcard.

Not sure what my keyboard player uses but it sounds great.

I've recorded vox with the E609 for Sh!ts and Giggles and I got to say I LOVE it!!!! Best all around mic I've ever bought.

Drums are completely Bfd 2.1...I have my drummer sit next to me and "air drum" as I tab out his parts in bfd2's new sequencer in the "Grooves page". Now sequence and mix all the drums from inside of Bfd2 and output to a stereo softsynth buss for mixing in great.

The current Daw setup is...

Vista 64 Sp1
Two Intel Xeon Quad CPU E5420@2.5GHz 12mb L2 cache
Supermicro x7dae mobo
8 gigs of ram
Four 500GB western digital HD [32mb buffer] [or maybe seagate???]
Nvidia GeForce 8600GT
Echo Audiofire4 driver 4.8 [testing 5.0 beta so far so good]
800watt power supply

If you would like to hear my bands music to see the work I've gotten done with acid go here:

Hope you like it. I'm looking to get my acidplanet account up and running soon too.

[btw...we are still looking for a vocalist so no vox on any tunes yet]



Message last edited on2/17/2009 9:27:58 PM bySHTUNOT.
Subject:RE: Thank you SCS/ACID Team
Reply by: kbruff
Date:2/17/2009 8:22:31 PM

Nice testimony, ACID has brought a smile to my face. I finished 3 instrumentals so far and I have been rocking hard with EZ Drummer and it has been good with ACID, I also use Kontakt 3 and now I using my brand new Elastik Sampler and again ACID just takes it with no problem.

As I clear more mile stones I will provide my testimony.

Subject:RE: Thank you SCS/ACID Team
Reply by: kbruff
Date:2/17/2009 8:25:37 PM

I checked your tunes, they sound good -- I like the Synths in the back of Hurt you again.

Subject:RE: Thank you SCS/ACID Team
Reply by: SHTUNOT
Date:2/17/2009 9:49:02 PM

Thanks dude.

Ya "hurt you again" was a tune that my whole band sat and drank a 1/2 a bottle of Jack+pepsi and mixed till we got it right.

The other tracks are still a work in progress mix wise.

With my new system I have soooo much power I'm mixing from a less is more stand point. I could easily fill these tunes with TONS of fx...but I'm forcing myself not to.

Check out the tune Serial confessions.

That one uses Acid rewired to Reason 4.

In acid my bass player read his lyrics into the E609 for a test run of the new mic. [as beatmapped]

I then went into the "Clip Properties" page and used the new "elastique" stuff on his voice.

Mind you he read it pretty monotone and at a decent speed with a little emotion.

I switched the stretch mode to "pro" and tweaked the Pitch and formants down to taste... Wow it sounds nothing like him. Really dark sound with his speech slowed down it sounds like he read it like that on purpose. It was a funny joke at the time but it was inspiring.

Opened Reason for and rewired it to acid. Open up Thor,Redrum...Thor for the creepy high pitch sounds[stretching metal patch], Redrum with the"BD_Disco_M.aif [for the heart beat]...Processed a bunch of stuff with the MClass Equalizer,MClass stereo Imager,MClass Maxinmizer,Rv7000 Reverb.

Added the thunder and lightning via loops I had and I used Izotope Ozone 3 on the master outs to glue it all together. That one was alot of fun to do.


Subject:RE: Thank you SCS/ACID Team
Reply by: kbruff
Date:2/18/2009 9:34:11 AM

It is great when stuff simply works...

My opinion is that vertical and horizaontal expansion within a DAW setting is critical.

Stability is the most important factor, ACID has proven to me that it has the stability, it scales both directions easily which creates a great balance between spontaneous experimenting and deep deliberate DSP processing and editing.

I am sorry to say guys, but the systematic errors I have had with Pro-Tools (PT 8.0 CS1 / PT 7.4 CS4) brought me back to ACID.

Another Success Story...

Last night I used EZ-Drummer and Drum Kit From hell and I did some drum over dubbing while using two instances of Izotope Trash, there were no fall out and again everything held up perfectly.

Then I rendered my 8 bar section, converted to a loop, quantized and add a cool groove quantize.

Then I cut it up into 1 bar sections and then cut those into 4 sections each and then resampled them using Phatmatik Pro so I have some insane chops and randomized hits, it really is nice how process focused ACID makes some one perform to.

WIthin a day so I would have completed another instrumental.

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