I agree about the templates, except that I think Sony themselves could supply far more of these in the standard Vegas release, either as presets or veg files. They're the ones who designed the functionality, so some starting examples would be very well received, I'm sure.

One very simple example would be a preset Bezier mask which turns the frame into an old TV screen - slightly curved, with rounded corners. Sure we can fiddle around for however long it takes and make our own, but with "stock" things like this we should be able to click a preset and be done.

One very simple example would be a preset Bezier mask which turns the frame into an old TV screen - slightly curved, with rounded corners. Sure we can fiddle around for however long it takes and make our own, but with "stock" things like this we should be able to click a preset and be done.

I'll do one for ya for a few $$. :)

? "I'll do one for ya for a few $$. :)"

Thanks for the offer, but I don't actually need one! - it was just an example ;)

"Sure we can fiddle around for however long it takes and make our own..." the scripts sold to work with Vegas were built on the premise that people would pay for a product so that they didn't have to "fiddle around" forever for repetitive processes. I would pay for templates to time-intensive processes like Track Motion, 3D motion, etc.

Yes, so would I, and remember there are many scripts provided free by other talented Vegas users, and these can also save lots of time, as well as the packaged ones such as Excalibur and Ultimatte S, both of which I have bought.

In addition to these acts of kindness and enterprise, I still think the basic product could include far more examples built-in, designed by those who know the capabilities of Vegas better than anyone - the software designers themselves.

OpenEXR image sequence support

What Vegas doesn't need is more bullet points.
It needs to increase the calibre of the ones it's got.

Bob.

Proper image sequence support of any kind. needs to be separate from the preview buffer.

Bob, that has been my thinking as well. When you look at the major additions in the past 3 versions, they all seem to fall short of the original hype and expectations. I think it is because they have been left for the most part as version 1 releases:

1. Network rendering
2. Media Manager
3. 64 bit

Of course, I fully expect 64 bit to continue to evolve. BTW, to me the one GREAT addition that was made (in 7 I think) was the alignment thingee for aligning the end points of clips.

Jerry

>What Vegas doesn't need is more bullet points.

>What Vegas doesn't need is more bullet points"

I agree in principle Bob, but I don't see presets as bullet points, more as working examples of bullet points already there.

Brief tutorials for very complex editing operations in the form of block/arrow flow diagrams displayed in picture in picture that can be dragged to the secondary monitor so that you may follow the blocks on the secondary monitor while executing the operations on your project with the primary monitor. The menu pop up would also explain what third party pluggins you would require for the operation.
JJK

Thanks for the offer, but I don't actually need one! - it was just an example ;)

The problem presents itself! You don't know what you NEED so how can anyone provide? They can throw in a million biezer curve presets but nearly everyone would say "we don't want THAT, we want something else!".

Yes HF,

Again, in priciple I agree, but I never asked for a million - just a few more for starters, including my very simple example.

And have a look at every Vegas Transition or Effect - every one has maybe a dozen presets, supplied free without worrying about whether anyone would want anything else.

I agree with Peter. My intention with this post wasn't to create a Vegas 9 wishlist. I think that Vegas added a bunch of nice features in the last couple versions, but they just leave them hanging out there. When I try different sofware programs, they tend to add about 50 or so presets for unique features. Sony added features, but then leaves you to figure out your own templates. When it's a feature you use just occasionally, it's nice to just click on it, then run down the presets, choose one, then away you go (perhaps with a couple tweaks).

I go back to the 3D track motion element. I was able to download several great veg examples through the good hearts of people on this forum, but it would be awesome to have about 25-50 presets where I could just have photos follow basic paths across the screen.

> I was able to download several great veg examples through the good hearts of people on this forum, but it would be awesome to have about 25-50 presets where I could just have photos follow basic paths across the screen.

This is what we did with the MotoFoto tab in Ultimate S Pro. It allows you to apply predetermined motion paths to photos moving across the screen in different directions.

Selling presets that do this (without a script) can't be done because Vegas lacks the simple ability to save multiple keyframes as a preset. So a PRESET is limited to a SINGLE KEYFRAME in Vegas. If you want presets that perform motion you will need a assemble several presets in the correct order for each keyframe that's needed. Some motions require lots of keyframes which would make applying presets per keyframe extremely unmaintainable. That's why people upload veg files. Vegas has no ability to save a "motion" as a preset.

That's why I use Boris RED. I use it for things that Vegas can already do because it allows me to save all of the motion as one preset. This goes back to what Bob said. It would be nice if Sony would concentrate one release on fixing all the limitations of the current features rather than adding more.

~jr

I'll second that one! High quality flv output would be a huge timesaver for me!

...except Boris RED sells for double what Vegas costs! :-O

I already have a node-based compositing software package. Heck, if I want REALLY fancy FX, I'll pull the video clips into Blender and go nuts. But some simple track motion preset scripts in Vegas would be faster and sufficient for many projects.

If Ultimate S (and its upgrades) were 2/3 the cost, I would probably own it. But I pay less than the current sale price ($140) for a SONAR Producer version upgrade. So the money will continue to go elsewhere while I study C# scripting. ;-)
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Mike

Selling presets that do this (without a script) can't be done because Vegas lacks the simple ability to save multiple keyframes as a preset. So a PRESET is limited to a SINGLE KEYFRAME in Vegas. If you want presets that perform motion you will need a assemble several presets in the correct order for each keyframe that's needed. Some motions require lots of keyframes which would make applying presets per keyframe extremely unmaintainable. That's why people upload veg files. Vegas has no ability to save a "motion" as a preset.

I was considering making tons of veg's with track motion, pan/crop, curve, etc. "presets" (tracks w/blank events, blank events with things done, etc) & selling them, I just don't see a market. Like said above, nobody wants to pay extra for these (at least nobody I know), they want them included.

Actually, members of the RTP Vegas Users Group (Raleigh, NC) ARE making Veg file track motion setups and sharing them with the group. Combined with Vegas's ability to embed projects, this works nicely.

What about an "Image Stabiliser"? Really!

No one worth their salt cares about lame transitions.

No one worth their salt cares about lame transitions.

people who PAY do.