Subject:Acid Pro 7a - Slow when Zooming

Posted by: Denise45

Date:12/2/2008 2:48:47 AM

HI,

I recently upgraded to 7.0a ...

as soon as my project gets a little complex... whenever I go to zoom in for some tight editing, everything slows down to a snail's pace. It can take 5 seconds just to cut an paste a single note in close zoom mode.

I have been using acid for ages and have never had this problem with Acid 6... please help! This is making close editing a nightmare!

I am running Duo Core 2.66 with 4 gig of Ram, Windows XP pro... no other programs are open and I do not even run my Anti-Virus when producing.

Are there some buffering settings I should be adjusting maybe??... Any help is appreciated!

Subject:RE: Acid Pro 7a - Slow when Zooming

Reply by: ForumAdmin

Date:12/2/2008 10:03:17 AM

Could you tell us if you are working with audio or MIDI events or both when you experience this issue.

The more detail the better.

It would also be helpful if you could fill out your system specs in your forum profile.

Thanks,

--j

Subject:RE: Acid Pro 7a - Slow when Zooming

Reply by: Denise45

Date:12/2/2008 12:39:21 PM

All Audio... I have a few midi tracks in the project but they are muted as I render to audio once i have what I want.

I recieved an email from you guys and I sent the project file to Peter.

I also notice that a few of my plugins (like PSP Vintage Warmer) are causing my projects to do some weird things... Could this problem be due to an fx plugin I am using??

Like I said before, I have never had this problem with Acid 6. This problem is totally new to me. All my plugs worked fine in 6.

Thanks a million for your help!

Subject:RE: Acid Pro 7a - Slow when Zooming

Reply by: pwppch

Date:12/2/2008 1:04:00 PM

as soon as my project gets a little complex... whenever I go to zoom in for some tight editing, everything slows down to a snail's pace. It can take 5 seconds just to cut an paste a single note in close zoom mode.

"paste a single note" implies MIDI editing? Is this true?

In the project you sent me, there are two soft-synths. One is Nexus2, the other I cannot determine. What is it?

Was this project an ACID 6 project loaded into ACID 7?

Thanks
Peter

Subject:RE: Acid Pro 7a - Slow when Zooming

Reply by: Denise45

Date:12/2/2008 1:25:37 PM

When I say "paste a note" what I am implying is for instance when I want to make a drum roll... I cut and paste my kick and snare in zoom mode.... i need the "close-up" for percise placement. Not pasting midi notes.

The other Soft Synth is Stylus RMX ... I own them both (no bootlegs) and both seem to run perfectly in 7.0a.

thank you Peter!

Subject:RE: Acid Pro 7a - Slow when Zooming

Reply by: Denise45

Date:12/2/2008 1:26:51 PM

and NO to the question... this project was started in Acid 7.0

Subject:RE: Acid Pro 7a - Slow when Zooming

Reply by: alexg

Date:12/2/2008 2:06:29 PM

I experienced this slowdown problem recently when I was experimenting with a VST from www.httmusic.com called HTP3 Darbukator Extreme. My system came to a snail's pace and I lost the horizontal scroll bar - it went completely black. On the vertical scroll bar I only had the + & - zoom controls, no zoom tool and no little bar between the + & - controls.

Anyway, after rebooting, loading the default startup project and various other random attempts at fixing the problem, it went away and things now appear to work fine.

I'm using WinXP Pro SP 3 with 4GB RAM. I've got a dual monitor setup using a Nvidia Quadro 1600M which is a CAD based graphics card focussed on a solid OpenGL implementation for 3D design work.

Subject:RE: Acid Pro 7a - Slow when Zooming

Reply by: Denise45

Date:12/2/2008 7:43:44 PM

Hi Alex...

The blackout scroll bar thing used to happen to me in Acid 6 when I would use non-registered or bootleg plugins (which I try not to do anymore)... it sounds like your plugin may be the issue.

But I do remember many times in acid 6 where this would happen... I would always have to remove my plugin(s) and reboot my system to get acid back to normal.

Dee

Subject:RE: Acid Pro 7a - Slow when Zooming

Reply by: Greg_M

Date:12/2/2008 8:49:28 PM

I also have problems when using PSP Vintage Warmer 2 and other PSP plug-ins (latest versions, i-Lok authorized, VST). At some point, the GUI for the plug-in will go blank and ACID Pro 7a will slow down. Shut down and reboot will fix it for a while but the problem persists. Sometimes the metering on the plug-in will stop working before the GUI is lost. These plugs are 100% legal and properly authorized - no cracked plugs at all on my system.

Greg

Subject:RE: Acid Pro 7a - Slow when Zooming

Reply by: alexg

Date:12/3/2008 3:18:34 AM

Interesting - the scroll bar black out occured just before I put in my authorization code i.e. the plugin was running in demo mode.

Alex

Subject:RE: Acid Pro 7a - Slow when Zooming

Reply by: porkjelly

Date:12/4/2008 6:07:51 AM

Holy shmoly! This sounds exactly like what I've been experiencing, a problem I've posted in another thread and one that the Sony dudes (bless their hearts) have tried helping me with before, but to no avail. o-(

With my problem, once I'm zoomed past a certain ratio (how do you tell what ratio you're at anyhow?), every single operation within the program slows down; accessing the hard drive like crazy with each mundane command. It happens for single WAV projects to mutilple WAV projects of any length (I don't work at all with MIDI). I've experienced this with past versions of ACID and throughout multple new PC configurations (CPU, mobo, graphics, RAM, etc). The only workaround I've discovered is to uncheck the "Draw contents of events" box. It would be nice of the Sony dudes if they could add in a feature that allows a user to toggle this feature on and off without having to go through Options > Preferences every time. o-)

I dunno if other users can see my specs, but in case they can't, I'm running XP with a 3.0 GHz Core 2 Duo, 4 gigs of 800 MHz RAM, GeForce 8800 GTS, a primary and secondary hard drive, and the latest updates and drivers for everything.

Subject:RE: Acid Pro 7a - Slow when Zooming

Reply by: Denise45

Date:12/4/2008 7:48:33 AM

Hi Pork...

Glad to hear Im not the only one having this problem... still have the problem with the zooming... been talking to Sony about it... sent them screenshot of the zoom ratio I have problems with as well as video so they can see it first hand...

No solutions yet tho....

Subject:RE: Acid Pro 7a - Slow when Zooming

Reply by: porkjelly

Date:12/5/2008 6:58:58 AM

Denise,

No, **I'm** glad to see I'm not the only one experiencing this problem. It's been happening to me for years [cries], and I've just learned to live with it. Doesn't mean I won't settle for a solution though! So please post one here if you guys are able to come up with one. It would be much appreciated! o-)

Subject:RE: Acid Pro 7a - Slow when Zooming

Reply by: porkjelly

Date:12/5/2008 8:44:11 PM

Just beatmapped an eight minute song and loaded it into ACID. Zoomed in on the file a little and then everything slowed down to a crawl. Every tasked executed within this zoom ratio---from opening a menu, to placing the cursor a few measures down the timeline, to inserting a marker---takes about 5 seconds to complete, during which time the program freezes while my hard drive is accessed. For example, I'll press M on my keyboard to insert a marker, then ACID freezes for 5 seconds while my hard drive kicks in. After 5 seconds is up, the program unfreezes the same time the hard drive stops. It's like ACID is accessing my hard drive for every mundane task I perform when zoomed in on files. However, if I go into Options > Preferences and uncheck "Draw contents of events", the problem disappears.

Subject:RE: Acid Pro 7a - Slow when Zooming

Reply by: porkjelly

Date:12/5/2008 8:54:34 PM

An interesting follow up: I went into the folder that contained the beatmapped song, deleted the SFK file for it, reloaded the song in ACID (thus forcing the program to redraw the file) and suddenly, the problem disappeared. I believe the original SFK file was created by Sound Forge since it was the software I used to edit the song before loading it into ACID. Could this be a clue? I hope so! Sony dudes, get to work...STAT! o-)

Subject:RE: Acid Pro 7a - Slow when Zooming

Reply by: porkjelly

Date:12/8/2008 4:47:45 PM

It looks like Sound Forge may indeed be the culprit. I'm working with a few 8 minute tracks in AP7. As soon as I open them up in SF9, edit and save them, the problem (everything described in my posts above) returns. If I navigate to the folder that contains the songs, delete their respective SFK files, and return to ACID as the active application, ACID then redraws their waveforms in the timeline and the problem disappears. Rinse and repeat. I hope there will be a fix for this some time in the near future. I know not everyone is experiencing this problem, but I would hate to have to repeat this procedure every time ACID comes to a screeching halt. Peter, can you confirm the existence of this "bug" or is this something that's unique to my PC? Thanks. o-)

Subject:RE: Acid Pro 7a - Slow when Zooming

Reply by: pwppch

Date:12/8/2008 7:53:05 PM

porkjelly,

Great effort and research! We are looking into your details.

Thanks
Peter

Subject:RE: Acid Pro 7a - Slow when Zooming

Reply by: porkjelly

Date:12/9/2008 8:46:16 AM

Peter,

That's awesome. Thanks for the quick response. Can't wait to see what you guys dig up...if anything. Hopefully, you will...crossing fingers.

Subject:RE: Acid Pro 7a - Slow when Zooming

Reply by: brothership

Date:1/9/2011 11:52:42 PM

Looks like this bug in ACID has returned...ever since the new Sound Forge patch. Same problem, same solution as described by me (formerly porkjelly) above.

Subject:RE: Acid Pro 7a - Slow when Zooming

Reply by: kyzo

Date:1/11/2011 9:06:25 AM

maby u need to update ur graffic card

Subject:RE: Acid Pro 7a - Slow when Zooming

Reply by: brothership

Date:1/13/2011 5:16:27 PM

I have a GeForce GTX 285. That should be more than fast enough. Besides, the temporary remedy I discovered two years ago, however cumbersome, works and should be in no way related to my graphics card.

Subject:RE: Acid Pro 7a - Slow when Zooming

Reply by: GrupoJyT

Date:1/18/2011 10:29:23 PM

I have the same problem and the same solution: deleting all sfk files the problem is solved.

And more: if I'm working with at least 20 audio tracks with track FX's and play a short loop (some seconds) many times, all my PC goes too slow.

The only way to solution this problem is:
a) Going to menu Options > Preferences > Audio Device, change the audio device type, click 'Apply', select the ASIO device again and click 'OK'.
b) Restarting the PC (Vista 7, Presonus Studio Audio, bla bla bla).