Subject:ACID 7 - MAC compatible?

Posted by: Martian

Date:10/18/2008 8:14:55 AM

I have not been following the developement with mac and their processors etc. Is it possible to run Acid on Mac?

Subject:RE: ACID 7 - MAC compatible?

Reply by: Chienworks

Date:10/18/2008 9:43:59 AM

If your Mac will run Windows then it will run ACID.

Subject:RE: ACID 7 - MAC compatible?

Reply by: Martian

Date:10/18/2008 3:14:23 PM

Cool! But does Mac make a comp. for windows? (sorry to ask again)
Is anybody actually doing this?

Subject:RE: ACID 7 - MAC compatible?

Reply by: Chienworks

Date:10/18/2008 5:26:45 PM

Don't get out much, do ya? ;-)

All Macs are built with Intel CPUs now. Install a program called 'bootcamp' and you can then install Windows. You'll then be able to boot your Mac up in either OSX or Windows.

Although, unless you *need* to run Mac software, i don't know why one would go to the extra expense. PCs with Windows installed are still a lot cheaper.

Subject:RE: ACID 7 - MAC compatible?

Reply by: Martian

Date:10/18/2008 6:33:17 PM

It must be 5 years ago, since I last worked on a Mac. I used to edit video on Avid but then I got in the music business and only used PC. I thought of buying Pro Tools 3 LE, and mainly use it as a soundcard, and edit in Acid. I also do my own covers, so I kind of miss Mac regarding the graphics. Just trying to see what options I have :-)

Subject:RE: ACID 7 - MAC compatible?

Reply by: feign

Date:10/18/2008 9:52:09 PM

For graphics I don't think a Mac offers any advantage over Windows-based programs these days. It's about equal. If that's the deciding factor for you, then get a fast PC with maximum memory and for graphics get Adobe's new CS4, which now directly uses the graphic card's processor and memory, for really sharp, fast performance.

And then you can run Acid and numerous plugins natively in Windows.

Subject:RE: ACID 7 - MAC compatible?

Reply by: Stunads

Date:10/20/2008 2:32:40 AM

There are a few different ways to run Acid Pro on a Mac (including Version 7).

1. You can purchase Bootcamp for Mac if you have Mac OS 10 (10.4.11 or earlier).
2. If you have Mac OS Leopard (10.5), Bootcamp should come installed standard with the Mac.
3. If you do not want to use Bootcamp, you can use another application called VM Fusion. http://www.vmware.com/products/fusion/
4. Obviously, if you want to run windows on this Mac, you are going to have to purchase a version of Windows XP or Vista in order to run it.

Both of these programs work the same way; they both run Windows through Mac OS; meaning there is a window on the screen that is running Windows. I think it runs Windows in a slave situation and the Mac OS is the master.

I used to use VMware a few years back and it worked nicely (with that set-up, I was running a Linux computer with Windows XP as the slave).

Did I answer your question?

In short, you can run Acid on a Mac; you just have to buy a few extras (even shorter, No, you cannot take Acid out of the box and run it on a Mac using Mac OS).

Subject:RE: ACID 7 - MAC compatible?

Reply by: Martian

Date:10/20/2008 6:54:29 AM

Thank you guys. That made me stick to my PC. Still buying Pro Tools 3 LE, and will upgrade from CS2 to CS4 (Adobe). I think it sounds a little tricky to run Acid on a Mac.

Subject:RE: ACID 7 - MAC compatible?

Reply by: pwppch

Date:10/20/2008 7:17:24 AM

Bootcamp does not run Windows through the Mac OS. Bootcamp permits Window to run natively. All bootcamp does is make it easy to partition your machine and provide a set of Windows drivers for the Mac hardware. Once inside Windows using Bootcamp, you cannot get to OSX, you must reboot into OSX and visa versa.

Our products run very well on a Bootcamp install of Windows.

Note, that with the virtual machine approach - Fusion or Parallels - you are running inside of OSX. There are MANY limitations for audio/MIDI applications. The largest problem is that MIDI hardware is not supported. Additionally, audio devices will have a high latency as neither solution supports ASIO.

Actually you can install Windows on Intel Mac hardware with out OSX installed. It takes a bit of work, but in the end, the Intel Mac's are just a PC with some special Apple specific hardware. The biggest issue is getting the drivers.

Be arware of your hardware support though, and avoid SP3 as there are reported problems. Many hardware vendors do not support Windows on Intel Macs.

Peter

Subject:RE: ACID 7 - MAC compatible?

Reply by: Stunads

Date:10/20/2008 4:16:06 PM

Why can't Sony get off of its high horse and make its software compliant across all operating systems?

The Apple Logic program was actually written by the same guy that wrote the first edition of Acid; hence, why I like and use Logic so much; among other reasons like side chains and things of the like.

Acid needs to improve its versatility if it wants to stay in the game and teaming up with Randy Jackson to make loop CDs is not going to cut it.

I grew up using Acid to make mixes, songs and video soundtracks: but it seems that Acid is turning into a starter pack application; where if you want to do more professional things you have to move on to other software...

Sorry if I sound like an A-hole, but I am not completely dissatisfied with the direction of the software. It feels like we keep getting screwed with new versions that do not do much more than the older versions. I still use Acid for various things, but I find myself slowly but surely shifting over to use Logic on my Mac.

Sorry Acid.

Subject:RE: ACID 7 - MAC compatible?

Reply by: Chienworks

Date:10/20/2008 6:11:32 PM

Why bother going to the effort of supporting an OS platform that has such a tiny user base? Why develop for a platform that costs the end user more money? I just don't see any advantage.

Subject:RE: ACID 7 - MAC compatible?

Reply by: pwppch

Date:10/20/2008 9:02:17 PM

The Apple Logic program was actually written by the same guy that wrote the first edition of Acid; hence, why I like and use Logic so much; among other reasons like side chains and things of the like.

I don't know where you got this information from but it is not accurate. The guy that invented ACID worked on SoundTrack for Apple after he left Sonic Foundry. He is (was?) part of the Logic 8 team. Logic is still based on the orginal EMagic Logic. The last time I saw the guy that invented ACID, we discussed Logic and he indicated that much of the team is still in place. The orginal founder and mastermind behind Logic is still around and very active.

Thanks for the rest of you comments and insights.

Peter

Subject:RE: ACID 7 - MAC compatible?

Reply by: ScarKord

Date:10/21/2008 3:41:50 AM

What a ludicrous suggestion...

"Why can't Sony get off of its high horse and make its software compliant across all operating systems?"

Surely you could level exactly the same question at Apple, since Logic used to run perfectly well on PC's before they decided to go Mac only.

Read Chris Randall's Analog Industries blog if you want some honest info about the trials and tribulations of recompiling plugins for Mac's. If his comments are anything to go by, getting Acid to work on a Mac (natively) would be a nightmare!

Subject:RE: ACID 7 - MAC compatible?

Reply by: deusx

Date:10/21/2008 9:46:38 AM

>>"Why can't Sony get off of its high horse and make its software compliant across all operating systems?"<<<

Because pro software works better on a high horse, than on a donkey turd OS like OSX.

Subject:RE: ACID 7 - MAC compatible?

Reply by: ozzborn

Date:10/21/2008 1:47:57 PM

did the guy who made soundtracks also make/help make garageband?

Subject:RE: ACID 7 - MAC compatible?

Reply by: pwppch

Date:10/21/2008 2:54:56 PM

Emagic did GarageBand.

Peter

Subject:RE: ACID 7 - MAC compatible?

Reply by: Zacchino

Date:10/23/2008 6:26:10 PM

Install BootCamp with Windows XP SP2, and there you go, you have Acid Pro on a Mac.

Nowdays most of the plugins are released in both AU, RTAS, and VST, both on Mac & PC, so no need to re-buy them.

Also, there's far more interesting Virtual Instruments for PC than for Mac. But that's my opinion here. Sometimes the most impressive Synth I've used were Free.

For example, multi platinum producers such as Timbaland, or Pollow da Don, and many other artists are switching to PC (with OpenLab Miko... Which runs on XP SP2) because there's so much more choice.

The "musicians work on macs" is not true anymore.

Subject:RE: ACID 7 - MAC compatible?

Reply by: Chienworks

Date:10/24/2008 11:33:36 AM

Yep. Kinda sad to see the brainwashing. I deal with a LOT of teens who see Macs used in school and in college, and are taught that if they want to accomplish *anything* in art, music, video, design, etc. that not only is the Mac the preferred platform, but that these things can't even be done on a Windows PC. So, they come to me for advice, talking about the prices of a Mac, and then get annoyed when i tell them they can get a very good Windows PC for half that price that will do everything they want to do and more. They go away disgusted and buy the Mac anyway. Then a year later they come back even more disgusted and annoyed because out in the real word, the Mac doesn't help them any, and everything they want to do is being done under Windows. Now they have to go buy Windows and they've wasted all that money on an overpriced Mac.

Subject:RE: ACID 7 - MAC compatible?

Reply by: KevinJackson

Date:10/24/2008 2:34:02 PM

Well, (not that I'm a teen - 27) I'm not disgusted by your advice, quite the opposite! I'm very pleased to learn that I'll be able to save quite a bit of needlessly spent money! So many thanks!

Subject:RE: ACID 7 - MAC compatible?

Reply by: kitekrazee

Date:10/26/2008 2:52:43 PM

I'm sure Macs have their advantages but there are so many people now building their own DAWs. I haven't bought a system in years. I keep upgrading the hardware and save $$$ over buying an off the shelf PC.

Subject:RE: ACID 7 - MAC compatible?

Reply by: Bofus

Date:10/27/2008 3:53:50 PM

Looks like someone has been drinking too much of the koolaide! :) I've gone back to the PC Camp for cheap hardware and 100% PC compatibility. My next Mac System was going to cost over $4,000 and I could not justify the price.

Regards,