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Subject:Acid Pro 7 + Vista: Vista 32? Vista 64?
Posted by: Vocalpoint
Date:10/15/2008 2:43:49 PM

Hello,

I see that Acid Pro 7 is Vista compatible - but is it just Vista 32 compatible or will it run just fine as a 32 bit executable within a Vista 64 environment?

Any info would be appreciated.

Cheers!

VP

Subject:RE: Acid Pro 7 + Vista: Vista 32? Vista 64?
Reply by: JohnnyRoy
Date:10/16/2008 5:32:31 AM

I have not seen where it claimed to be a 64-bit application like Vegas Pro 8.1 so I assume it will just run as a 32-bit application on Vista 64. The bigger problem is finding audio drivers for Vista 64. I have an M-Audio FW-410 (2-in/8-out) and PreSonus FireStudio Project (8-in/8-out) and neither of them work in Vista 64 yet so my Vista 64 partition is useless to me.

~jr

Message last edited on10/16/2008 5:33:01 AM byJohnnyRoy.
Subject:RE: Acid Pro 7 + Vista: Vista 32? Vista 64?
Reply by: PeterWright
Date:10/16/2008 6:40:10 AM

Johnny - did you read this from Sony's October newsletter? - I thought of you when I read it ...

"But since Windows Vista appeared, all my essential audio interfaces now have 64-bit drivers, and they work fine-as do the few native 64-bit applications I run. The latest service pack improved performance, and while 64 bits is probably meaningless to those running spreadsheets, it means a lot if you use Vegas Pro software. Click here to continue

Author/musician Craig Anderton is Editor in Chief of www.harmony-central.com and Executive Editor for EQ magazine. He's doing a lot of mastering these days for classical music artists."

Subject:RE: Acid Pro 7 + Vista: Vista 32? Vista 64?
Reply by: Vocalpoint
Date:10/16/2008 7:41:08 AM

"The bigger problem is finding audio drivers for Vista 64."

I can only say this - patience, my friend. Patience.

Cheers!

VP

Subject:RE: Acid Pro 7 + Vista: Vista 32? Vista 64?
Reply by: BradlyMusic
Date:10/16/2008 9:45:47 AM

My Echo Audio sound cards have had 64bit drivers for well over a year now. It would be nice if Acid offered Vistax64 support, since 64bit OSes are the way of the future for multimedia apps like Acid.....and since Acid doesn't get many updates....it would be crappy waiting another 2 years to see x64 support in Acid. Sony saw the need for it in Vegas.....at this point, it would be a slap in the face if they left it out of Acid.

It's really not the audio drivers that is the major hold up with native 64 OS supported apps like Acid....it's the plugins that you use with the app. I see Vegas has this problem, where people are complaining about their plugins not working in Vegas. It will be the same way with Acid IF Acid has x64 support. To be able to use Acid like you currently use it, your plugins must have x64 OS support also. Reaper also has this same problem where you can't use 32bit supported plugins in the x64 version of Reaper. That's the only thing really holding me back on going full on with Vistax64 is that none of my current plugins support Vistax64. All my hardware has x64 bit driver support at this time.

If you really want to know if Acid 7 will have Vista x64 support. Just take a look at the 3rd party plugin vendors that they're including with Acid 7 and do some investigation to see if they currently have x64 support. With a little research, your answer is probably not too far away.

Message last edited on10/16/2008 9:50:38 AM byBradlyMusic.
Subject:RE: Acid Pro 7 + Vista: Vista 32? Vista 64?
Reply by: Vocalpoint
Date:10/16/2008 11:43:11 AM

"That's the only thing really holding me back on going full on with Vistax64 is that none of my current plugins support Vistax64. All my hardware has x64 bit driver support at this time"

Hasn't stopped me as all 32 bit apps work fine with 32 bit plugs on Vista 64.

I agreed with a true 64 bit app tho - plugin support will most certainly lack behind for years until MS no longer offers a 32 bit OS as standard. Windows 7 will have a 32 bit flavor so get ready for a long wait on anything but the most up to date offerings.

Once the 64 bit OS is the only choice - plugin devs will have no choice but to code in 64 bit or get left behind.

Cheers!

VP

PS: On the question of ACID 7 Pro being available in true 64 bit - I would be stunned if Sony Dev did NOT prepare for that. Most likely they will get the 32 bit version out, fix the inevitable "Version 7.0a" bugs and then offer up the 64 bit version.

Subject:RE: Acid Pro 7 + Vista: Vista 32? Vista 64?
Reply by: BradlyMusic
Date:10/16/2008 12:21:07 PM

"Hasn't stopped me as all 32 bit apps work fine with 32 bit plugs on Vista 64. "

You really aren't getting the benefits of a 64 bit OS then are you? Since, you're only really using the 32bit shells built into the 64 bit OS.

Subject:RE: Acid Pro 7 + Vista: Vista 32? Vista 64?
Reply by: nedski
Date:10/16/2008 12:24:27 PM

JohnnyRoy, I have a Presonus Firepod, now called FP10, and they have Vista 64 drivers for it. So I guess Presonus is at least aware of the need.

I just checked the M-Audio web site and saw there is a BETA Vista 64 driver, so it seems there are working on it. Yea, I know, can't use a beta driver with a paying customer.

I had an M-Audio FW-410 before I got the Presonus. I thought needed more inputs, but the job I was going to use it for fell through. No paying customer. :-(

Nedski

Subject:RE: Acid Pro 7 + Vista: Vista 32? Vista 64?
Reply by: Vocalpoint
Date:10/16/2008 2:15:19 PM

"You really aren't getting the benefits of a 64 bit OS then are you? Since, you're only really using the 32bit shells built into the 64 bit OS. "

Well - let's put it this way - since there is only ONE single quantifiable benefit to 64 bit - which is memory beyond 4GB - if/when I actually get a 32bit instance of ACID to use 3.99GB of memory and it fails - then yes - I would say I am not getting full benefit.

FWIW - I do not think I have ever passed a hundred or two hundred MB ever in any ACID projects - so memory usage will never be a benefit here. 64 bit or otherwise.

That said - ACID 6.0d (32bit) is noticeably faster and much more responsive and stable in Vista 64 than in XP32 - so for that benefit alone - I will take the plunge.

VP

Message last edited on10/16/2008 2:17:44 PM byVocalpoint.
Subject:RE: Acid Pro 7 + Vista: Vista 32? Vista 64?
Reply by: JohnnyRoy
Date:10/16/2008 4:45:47 PM

> Johnny - did you read this from Sony's October newsletter? - I thought of you when I read it ...

yea, when I read that I just rolled my eyes. It's easy for him to say... his hardware works!

~jr

Subject:RE: Acid Pro 7 + Vista: Vista 32? Vista 64?
Reply by: JohnnyRoy
Date:10/16/2008 4:48:30 PM

> JohnnyRoy, I have a Presonus Firepod, now called FP10, and they have Vista 64 drivers for it. So I guess Presonus is at least aware of the need.

I know and what KILLS me is that when I purchased the FireStudio I was looking at the FP10 but went with the FireStudio because it had meters on the front. Had I bought the FP10 I would have been all set but Vista 64 wasn't a consideration in my buying decision (and it should have been) :(

~jr

Subject:RE: Acid Pro 7 + Vista: Vista 32? Vista 64?
Reply by: mista k
Date:10/17/2008 4:28:05 PM

so will acid 7 see more than 2gb in xp?

Subject:RE: Acid Pro 7 + Vista: Vista 32? Vista 64?
Reply by: Vocalpoint
Date:10/17/2008 7:47:18 PM

"so will acid 7 see more than 2gb in xp? "

Nope. It's just as 32 bit as ACID 6.0 was...so no change there.

VP

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