Subject:Amplitube 2 Crashing Acid 6

Posted by: Cheye

Date:8/13/2008 7:58:20 PM

Hello

Well, Acid 6 still seems to not like working with other plugins. First troubles were with UAD-1 plugs and now with Amplitube 2. I'm at the point once again with this Acid Software where I can't complete another project because of instability. Here is the dump info and perhaps Peter can help? I'm so disappointed with this software, it can do such great things, with such ease of use, but man it doesn't seem to get along well with other plugins and is not stable for me. I run everything in Cubase and it has never gone down on me. Man this just stinks, and more time wasted using this Acid Program. Sorry for the bitching. Peter here is the dump...

Sony ACID Pro 6.0
Version 6.0d (Build 363)
Exception 0xC0000005 (access violation) READ:0xFFC00044 IP:0xBFEB176
In Module 'AmpliTube2.vpa' at Address 0xBE00000 + 0x1EB176
Thread: GUI ID=0xB88 Stack=0x12E000-0x130000
Registers:
EAX=11c71668 CS=001b EIP=0bfeb176 EFLGS=00210246
EBX=11f88120 SS=0023 ESP=0012e488 EBP=0012e510
ECX=0da8f1c8 DS=0023 ESI=0da8f1c8 FS=003b
EDX=ffc00000 ES=0023 EDI=0012e560 GS=0000
Bytes at CS:EIP:
0BFEB176: FF 52 44 84 C0 0F 84 43 .RD....C
0BFEB17E: 01 00 00 8B 06 8D 4C 24 ......L
Stack Dump:
0012E488: 0012E600 00030000 + FE600
0012E48C: 11C6FFD0 10030000 + 1C3FFD0
0012E490: 11F88120 10030000 + 1F58120
0012E494: 00C6DA70 00BD0000 + 9DA70
0012E498: 11C71668 10030000 + 1C41668
0012E49C: 00000000
0012E4A0: 11C6DA70 10030000 + 1C3DA70
0012E4A4: 11C6DA70 10030000 + 1C3DA70
0012E4A8: 00000000
0012E4AC: 11C32C00 10030000 + 1C02C00
0012E4B0: 11C23DB0 10030000 + 1BF3DB0
0012E4B4: 11C70144 10030000 + 1C40144
0012E4B8: 0012E5B0 00030000 + FE5B0
0012E4BC: 11F88120 10030000 + 1F58120
0012E4C0: 00000000
0012E4C4: 00000008
> 0012E4DC: 0BFEA80A 0BE00000 + 1EA80A (AmpliTube2.vpa)
> 0012E4E0: 0BF49D00 0BE00000 + 149D00 (AmpliTube2.vpa)
0012E4E4: 0012E510 00030000 + FE510
0012E4E8: 11F88148 10030000 + 1F58148
0012E4EC: 11C6FFD0 10030000 + 1C3FFD0
0012E4F0: 00000000
> 0012E514: 0BFEB2C4 0BE00000 + 1EB2C4 (AmpliTube2.vpa)
0012E518: 11C6FFD0 10030000 + 1C3FFD0
0012E51C: 11F88120 10030000 + 1F58120
0012E520: 0012E540 00030000 + FE540
0012E524: 0012E560 00030000 + FE560
> 0012E5B4: 0BFEB2C4 0BE00000 + 1EB2C4 (AmpliTube2.vpa)
0012E5B8: 11C6C228 10030000 + 1C3C228
0012E5BC: 11F88120 10030000 + 1F58120
0012E5C0: 0012E5E0 00030000 + FE5E0
0012E5C4: 0012E600 00030000 + FE600
> 0012E654: 0BFEB2C4 0BE00000 + 1EB2C4 (AmpliTube2.vpa)
0012E658: 11C32C20 10030000 + 1C02C20
0012E65C: 11F88120 10030000 + 1F58120
0012E660: 0012E680 00030000 + FE680
0012E664: 0012E6A0 00030000 + FE6A0
> 0012E6F4: 0BFEB2C4 0BE00000 + 1EB2C4 (AmpliTube2.vpa)
- - -
0012FFF0: 00000000
0012FFF4: 00000000
0012FFF8: 0078DC0A 00400000 + 38DC0A (acid60.exe)
0012FFFC: 00000000

Subject:RE: Amplitube 2 Crashing Acid 6

Reply by: Greg_M

Date:8/15/2008 4:43:46 AM

Confirmed. Amplitube 2 hard crashes ACID pro 6d as soon as you attempt to select an amp model other than the default.

Greg

Subject:RE: Amplitube 2 Crashing Acid 6

Reply by: Cheye

Date:8/15/2008 8:16:19 PM

Would it be possible to have a Sony tech comment on this? Atleast let us know of a fix or if you have addressed this issue. I suppose no updates in 2 years means my request or hope of solving this problem is pretty much lost. How the hell can you put out such a bug ridden app and not update it in 2 years. Are you trying to put yourselves out of business?

Cheye

Subject:RE: Amplitube 2 Crashing Acid 6

Reply by: Cheye

Date:8/19/2008 10:22:04 AM

HI Greg

Would it be possible for you to tell me the version number of your Amplitube 2 software. Are you using the updated version?

Thanks Greg

Cheye

Subject:RE: Amplitube 2 Crashing Acid 6

Reply by: SHTUNOT

Date:8/19/2008 10:58:59 AM

Cheye...

I use Guitar Rig 3 all the time without it crapping out like that. Maybe you should turn your attention to the amplitube guys as well and see if they tested at all with acid.

Ed.

Subject:RE: Amplitube 2 Crashing Acid 6

Reply by: Rickms

Date:8/19/2008 1:50:58 PM

Crashing in ACID imagine that!

Subject:RE: Amplitube 2 Crashing Acid 6

Reply by: Greg_M

Date:8/19/2008 10:23:24 PM

Cheye,

I'm using Amplitube 2 version 2.1.2 (pretty sure this is the latest), WinXP SP3, ACID Pro 6d.

Greg

Subject:RE: Amplitube 2 Crashing Acid 6

Reply by: Cheye

Date:8/20/2008 7:45:00 AM

Thanks Greg

I've also contacted the Amplitube side of the fence and they say they will look into this, and no reply from the Sony people.

Cheye

Subject:RE: Amplitube 2 Crashing Acid 6

Reply by: Cheye

Date:8/20/2008 12:05:32 PM

Hi Greg

I'm using an older version(one back from current) of amplitube however, mine doesn't crash every time you select an amp model, but has just bizarre behavior and may just take down Acid for no apparent reason or sometimes while in record mode. It has crashed while changing amp models and other settings in amplitube as well.

Does your version crash everytime you change amp models or just sometimes? I'm now wondering if the upgrade is worse? How does yours behave?

Thanks

Cheye

Subject:RE: Amplitube 2 Crashing Acid 6

Reply by: Greg_M

Date:8/20/2008 1:27:50 PM

Cheye,

Ok, here's how Amplitube 2 seems to respond to ACID on my system.

1) If Amplitube is inserted on an audio track you can play guitar using the default amp. The instant you hit the preset menu bar you get a hard crash. No need to try to record the default amp - its horrible.

2) If Amplitube is inserted on a Bus you can change presets without issue and play forever. However, if you want to record there is a quirk. If you define the record length, everything seems to work fine. But, if you don't and leave the record length open ended ACID crashes with 2 seconds of hitting the record button.

Amplitube 2 seems to respond normally in Vegas, Pro Tools, and Reaper. This looks like an ACID 6 issue to me. For this testing I was using the Digidesign ASIO driver which is really pretty solid.

At this point, I would just try recording with Amplitube on a bus and with a defined record length. I think it's safe to say that ACID 6 and Amplitube 2 have severe issues about working together. I think we're stuck waiting for the next ACID release.

Hope this helps,
Greg

Subject:RE: Amplitube 2 Crashing Acid 6

Reply by: Cheye

Date:8/20/2008 9:54:48 PM

Hi Greg

Thanks for the in depth response and this helps greatly. Yes, Acid has a lot of problems with VST 's on inserts including the UAD-1 and Waves. I now only use Assignable effects and busses. The crashes I get are similar to yours and are almost always happening when recording.

One dumb question for you is, what do you mean by define the record length? Do you mean defining with the locaters - punch in and out? By leaving the record length open ended, does this mean not using locaters to punch in and out? Just a little confused :.)

If there is a work around to the problem I am happy, if not, Sony should fix it. You are correct in predicting that we will be waiting for the next version before we see a fix, but there will be a whole new set of issues when the new one comes around.

Thank God for the users on this forum who have helped me out and many others. I didn't even get a response from Sony on this one. Must be a bug in Acid 6 for sure.

Cheye

Subject:RE: Amplitube 2 Crashing Acid 6

Reply by: Greg_M

Date:8/21/2008 10:19:30 AM

Cheye,

Yes, I mean use the locators to define the record length. When testing, I didn't get any crashes as long as I defined the record length and put Amplitube on a bus. It didn't seem to matter if it was 30 seconds or 5 minutes as long as I set the locators before hitting the record button.

Greg

Subject:RE: Amplitube 2 Crashing Acid 6

Reply by: MarkinDC

Date:8/21/2008 11:40:19 AM

Hey Guys....I need to chime in here for a minute. Amplitube has been the bain of my existence since I purchased it. Now I'm starting to have stack dumps with Waves products also. One person @ the DMN Sony Acid Forum told me to re-install Acid 6 but I'm hesitant to corrupt my clean install of Acid. I've gotten so desparate that I've turned to some freeware. There are three Amp Sims at this link that sound Ok. They are not Amplitube but they might let you get some work done untill your issues are resolved....http://www.audiomastermind.com/browse-amps___amp_simulators-5887083-1.html
I've downloaded Juicy 77 & Boogex from pg 1 and CrunchDude from page 2. Juicy 77 might suprise you. I'm also trying to deal with IK's tech support now. I'll post again if I hear anything positive.
My reality right now is that I'm considering another DAW. Cubase anyone?

Subject:RE: Amplitube 2 Crashing Acid 6

Reply by: Rickms

Date:8/21/2008 2:07:12 PM

I made the switch over to Reaper, all the stability issues I used to have with ACID just do not exist. All my plugins, and I have a lot, including amplitube are working fine.

I will rethink ACID when and if another release is made available.

The fact that Sony does not help with these types of issues indicates to me that they either do not care or they understand the program is buggy but have no fixes.

Subject:RE: Amplitube 2 Crashing Acid 6

Reply by: Cheye

Date:8/21/2008 8:08:18 PM

I use Cubase as well as Acid and I have never had Cubase crash yet. All my plugins work fantastic and best of all the UAD-1 goes to 99% at 2ms latency and rock solid.

Acid crashes a lot with various plugs and does not perform well with the UAD-1 card. Acid seems to have trouble with...UAD-1, Waves, Amplitube and probably many more. It is obvious and well known that Acid pro 6 is NOT STABLE!

Acid seems to work well with Reason but Acid even crashed when rewired into Cubase. It didn't take down Cubase but crashed itself thus forcing a quit of Cubase to reset the rewire and get things up and running again.

Does Reaper work much the same way as Acid? How are they alike and different besides the obvious non crash scenario?

Cheye

Subject:RE: Amplitube 2 Crashing Acid 6

Reply by: Cheye

Date:8/21/2008 8:29:14 PM

If you have another application like Cubase you could always rewire Acid into Cubase, record your guitars in Cubase using Amplitube and then export them back into Acid. I don't think it would be that much of a hassle, far less than the frustration of crash, crash, crash and smacking your head against the table while cursing Sony and their non responsive tech support. There is always a work around, but not with Acid by itself, it is doomed unless they fix and update(not likely) or put out a new version. Peter will be back when there is a new version to help us out with those new problem issues that will come with the new Acid version. Damn!

Cheye