Importing DVD archived video

LongTallTexan wrote on 4/10/2008, 9:12 AM

I used the import DVD camcorder disk and it pulled the clips over as chapter files. I noticed that there was a second or so of flatline audio at the end of each clip. When I watch the DVD these audio drop outs are not present so it is something with the import. When you import a CD you have the option of one large file or individual songs, Why can't we have this feature when importing from DVD? or am I missing something. This is my own material no copyright bit. Is there another program that can give me one long file with no dropouts?

L.T.

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johnmeyer wrote on 4/10/2008, 9:21 AM

I am afraid that Sony has never understood the tremendous importance of providing tools to let people re-purpose their DVD code. They think that everyone stores all their original tapes and then recaptures them, finds the sfcap file, re-uses the VEG file, makes the edits, does a new render, imports to DVDA, figures out some new authoring, prepares the image, and burns a DVD.

Yet, for so many people, they just want to combine a few different chapters from existing DVDs, and create a new DVD.

I would suggest looking at some of the ULEAD products or go to Pinnacle. Womble lets you import and cut the VOB files without re-encoding, although it doesn't have any of the authoring. I suspect some of the Nero products will do this. Come to think of it, I think virtually all other products do a better job.

baysidebas wrote on 4/10/2008, 11:50 AM

Look into VideoReDo for fast and frame accurate mpeg cutting. Not heavy on bells and whistles but a great tool for rearranging material on previously authored DVDs.

BPB wrote on 5/12/2008, 7:14 AM

I am having the same problem as longtalltexan. Audio dropouts at the vob clip breaks. This is video of my band ..no copyright issue..given to me on DVD. The disk plays fine. On import the VOB is imported in chapters with a sec of missing audio at the breaks,. Not good for a music video. I am just trying to get a one song cut from my video. So far no joy. Have you found a solution. I've done the search and see others have tried a variety of rippers/encoders to get something VV won't choke on. Thanks for any additional posts.
BB

Stringer wrote on 5/12/2008, 8:08 AM

Have you thought about capturing the audio with a suitable audio editing application and re-mixing it with the video ?

rs170a wrote on 5/12/2008, 8:17 AM

I am just trying to get a one song cut from my video.

Do you have a miniDV camcorder that has the pass-through feature?
If so, hook a DVD player up to it (either S-video or composite) and then firewire to your computer.
Play the DVD and capture the song into Vegas.

Mike

BPB wrote on 5/12/2008, 10:19 AM

Thanks for the replies, Yes I have been thinking of the dvd player thru the camcorder method. and I do have alot of audio software..Protools, wavelab, nuendo , sound forge etc. I was hoping for a less convoluted method. I've recently purchased Final Cut Pro for my G5 but have yet to install it. I guess this a good time. I just thought I was making an import error..but this seems a persistent bug from all of the posts on this subject. Just for my own knowledge, what is happening on import to cause this..it seems to render the dvd import feature useless unless the audio drop is accidentally in a convenient place.

BB

Chienworks wrote on 5/12/2008, 4:09 PM

I usually use Mike's method for capturing from DVD, though i use an external A/V->DV converter box instead of a camcorder. It Just Plain Works, and works very well. I also end up with DV files which are much more Vegas friendly than MPEG for source.

On the other hand though, if Vegas had a switch to turn off breaks at chapters i probably would use it's DVD import feature. Aside from that one issue it works nicely now. But that one issue is enough to make it worthless for me.

BPB wrote on 5/13/2008, 6:20 PM

Thanks Chienworks, what av/dv converter to you use?
BB

Chienworks wrote on 5/13/2008, 6:35 PM

I picked up a Sony unit just as they were being discontinued. I'm not at home right now, but i think it's the DVMC-DA2 or something like that. It listed for about $400, i got it for $300. I see them on ebay now for under $100. Not many bells and whistles, but it's rock-solid conversion. I use it in reverse for monitoring the timeline on a television too.

ScorpioProd wrote on 5/15/2008, 11:43 AM

I had asked Sony about this at NAB, and they said that getting ripping software would be the way to get the MPEG out of the VOB from DVDs I produced.

Though they did think that "if the DVD was created in DVD Architect, it shouldn't have the end of chapters problem."

Well, I haven't seen their DVD import work without a problem at the end of the chapters no matter where I created the DVD. :(

So, ripping software it is. Any recommendations?

UKAndrewC wrote on 5/15/2008, 12:16 PM

I use DVDShrink.

If you use it in re-author mode you can create individual clips, rather than having to take the whole disc.

Andrew

johnmeyer wrote on 5/15/2008, 3:08 PM

I have developed dozens of techniques for importing DVD material into Vegas and also directly into DVD Architect. My goal has always been, whenever possible, to be able to edit the result without re-encoding, thus saving time and keeping the original quality untouched. If you search under my username you will find dozens of posts about this.

In some cases, I put the VOB directly on the timeline, edit with Vegas, and then use the Vegas to Womble utility to export to Womble, which then does seamless, no-loss cuts.

In other cases, I use VFAPI to create a proxy. This not only can help avoid the discrepancy between video and audio reported in the first post in this thread, but also makes editing of MPEG-2 on the Vegas timeline as fast and snappy as editing DV AVI.

Using DGIndex and VFAPI to edit MPEG-2

Extracting Video from a DVD image

Most of the problems with audio and video not matching happen with AC-3 5.1, or when the VOB contains more than just one audio and one video track. If you use DVD Decrypter you can demux the DVD into the audio and video streams and this often solves the problem. This use of DVD Decrypter has nothing to do with breaking Decss and instead is simply using its ability to demux.

JJKizak wrote on 5/16/2008, 5:43 AM

Most of us are indoctrinated into how fast and easy Vegas does things and when it falters a bit we get ticked off. The iimporting of DVD stuff has had the lost sound frame problem for a while now and I hope it gets fixed.
JJK