adding extra chapter in music compilation... how?

Aivar wrote on 5/9/2008, 2:42 AM
Hi, simple question: how to add extra chapter on muisc dvd compilation... Manual does not help and i didn't figure out this so simple thing myself(this is so basic operation made difficult to me)... :D and i really hope that on DVD Arch 5.0 pro will be possible add menu to audio compiltion in that way that it plays all the tracks and only when i push menu putton on remote, menu shows...

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johnmeyer wrote on 5/9/2008, 7:43 AM
You cannot add chapters in a music compilation.
bStro wrote on 5/9/2008, 9:21 AM
To expand, each item that you add to a compilation is a chapter. If you want a selection to be divided into chapters, then split the file before bringing it into DVDA.

i really hope that on DVD Arch 5.0 pro will be possible add menu to audio compiltion in that way that it plays all the tracks and only when i push menu putton on remote, menu shows...

Unless I'm misinterpreting you, that's how it works now.

If you're actually creating an audio compilation, the default already is to play all tracks. Do you want the compilation to loop, is that it? Then set the end action for the compilation to link back to itself. If that's not it, please explain what you're asking.

Rob
Aivar wrote on 5/9/2008, 12:24 PM
Thanx, Rob! But some music videos have a intro and i'd like not to cut it out, but if i use them at the club, add a right place chapter... all dvd-authors witch i used becore, had this possibility, but since i turned to Vegas Pro 8, i'd like to see also dvdArc power...
Aivar wrote on 5/9/2008, 12:26 PM
and one more thing, if i make videodvd and add a menu, then first play is menu, not tracks...
MPM wrote on 5/9/2008, 12:55 PM
A compilation is just a string of files that you didn’t bother combining in Vegas (or whatever editor(s) you use). Put another way, creating comps is more or less a convenience feature just to keep from sending you back to your editing software with your audio & video files - stills are a special case as your video editor will likely do a worse job for a lot more effort.

When you add files to a comp in DVDA, it creates a Cell & Chapter at the start of every file - strictly speaking, you have to have a cell at the start of a file, & DVDA, well, it won’t create a cell without creating a chapter. The disadvantage is that you can’t add chapters - other than by adding another file (or turning 1 file into two as Rob suggested) - so you either make the comp in an editor & have freedom to edit your chapters, or bring them into a comp in DVDA & make do with a chapter at the start of each file. Nothing different than what Rob’s already posted – just more words. ;-)

To accomplish what you’re after: 1) I’d humbly suggest having your first menu have one default button that auto-activates pointing to your video/music tracks... The screen will be black for a fraction of a second longer.

2) For your music intros you could combine your files before importing into DVDA so you don’t need a comp, then use chapters/cells to point to where you want things to play. I would modify the pointing to cells part of it by editing your DVDA produced DVD in PGCEdit, but I think you should be able to manage just in DVDA if that was your choice.

Or you could just split the files as Rob suggested, and handle pointing to the correct chapters as above.
johnmeyer wrote on 5/9/2008, 1:25 PM
You don't need to use a music compilation. That would give you much more flexibility.
bStro wrote on 5/9/2008, 9:32 PM
Aivar, it sounds to me like you should be using playlists instead of music compilations. You can add all the files you want (with or without the video intro) to your project and create different playlists for each of your needs.

and one more thing, if i make videodvd and add a menu, then first play is menu, not tracks..

So, select the video you want in the Project Overview window and set it to DVD Start. Now that's your first play.

Rob
Aivar wrote on 5/10/2008, 1:27 AM
thanx for answrs, but the videodvd's i make is for me to proffessional use...not for home watching.. so i thinking maybe really split files... but there's still this menu thing:D Anyway , thank You All for help!
MPM wrote on 5/10/2008, 8:06 AM
In case it helps... Video DVDs are like the scripting they’re based on - with any sort of programming there’s several ways to do something; the method you choose most often determines performance. And yes, that’s what you’re doing thru DVDA or whichever authoring program - you’re using scripting & writing code. You have realistically 3 sets of rules: The DVD Specs - What most players can handle - And what your software can accomplish. As long as you obey all 3 you can do whatever you want, so there really is no such thing, no distinctions between home or pro use, or designing DVDs to be distributed internationally. There are many pros here.

FWIW, I’d suggest approaching the design of your DVDs holistically: start with what you want to wind up with and work backwards from there. How you’ll use the DVD(s) determines what performance characteristics are most important, determines which methods you’ll use, balanced of course with the amount of time, effort, and money you have budgeted. Then you can decide what the requirements are for your content, and how to best meet those requirements.

For the first step I’d suggest simply looking at what other people are doing, then combine that with how you work & what you’d like to improve, coming up with a wish list. Filtering that list thru the 3 sets of rules I mentioned get’s you to the authoring software phase, where you research, ask questions, maybe experiment to find the best methods. Then you can start getting your media content together in whatever needed form - if this is a first for you, it doesn’t hurt to work with very short clips to test the waters.
bStro wrote on 5/10/2008, 2:24 PM
thanx for answrs, but the videodvd's i make is for me to proffessional use...not for home watching..

Excuse me, but how does that negate anything that the rest of us have told you? None of the advice you have been given here is limited to DVDs for "home watching." In fact, most of the people who have given it to you are also doing this professionally.

Rob
Aivar wrote on 5/14/2008, 4:55 AM
Hi, Bob, You did get me wrong littlebit.. i'm not accusing anyone here... just told how i'd like to use them, that menu will appear only by selecting it... so i'm sorry if i insolted someone here...