Subject:Sound Forge or Vegas Audio

Posted by: media4

Date:11/19/2000 7:32:00 PM

I run an FM radio station & want to use either Sound Forge
or Vegas Audio ... we don't do extremely complicated audio
production .. are there a few main points on either side
anyone might suggest for the best software for our use. I
like what I read on both but would appreciate a few other
thoughts.

Many thanks,

Mike

Subject:Re: Sound Forge or Vegas Audio

Reply by: Rednroll

Date:11/19/2000 7:53:00 PM

Mike, I do part time work for a major radio station in Detroit, This
station uses Saw Pro for this kind of work. I am familiar with Saw
Pro, but choose to use Vegas over it,in my personal recording studio,
because of it's user interface. Both programs do the same type of
work. You will definitely want to choose Vegas over Sound Forge for
this type of work. Vegas has multiple tracks, so that you can
overlay sweepers and such over songs and commercials....you can't do
that in Sound Forge. Vegas also has "non destructive" editing, which
is very important, even in small productions like your asking to
do...sound forge does not. In short, Vegas is a multitrack recording
production tool, and Sound forge is a 2 track editor and recorder.
So if you aren't gonna playback more than 1 sound at a time or don't
have to do editing between different sources of audio, then Sound
Forge might get you by. Vegas is the optimal tool and will get you
by with room to spare.

Mike Perras wrote:
>>I run an FM radio station & want to use either Sound Forge
>>or Vegas Audio ... we don't do extremely complicated audio
>>production .. are there a few main points on either side
>>anyone might suggest for the best software for our use. I
>>like what I read on both but would appreciate a few other
>>thoughts.
>>
>>Many thanks,
>>
>>Mike

Subject:Re: Sound Forge or Vegas Audio

Reply by: media4

Date:11/20/2000 6:39:00 AM

Thanks Brian ..

I was playing with the Vegas demo .. very nice user inetrface, I
agree. Now, as someone who also appreciates what these tools can do in
prod, tell your take on the ACID loops, like them? use them? and maybe
suggest the better ones ... in addition to having your own library of
music beds, you probably already make your own for spots & especially
promos .. would you find the ACID feature beter for promos mostly?

Now here's a good one for ya .. is there such an animal as a piece of
software that can sample my voice & then have someone else do a read,
using that sample & have it sound like me .. are we headed in that
direction? It seems we can do so much with video these days that
sooner or later that feature will be doable on the audio side .. the
possibilities are staggering ... using the texture of someone else's
voice, only to have another person actually do the read or still on
that subject, is there software out there can can at least alter the
voice enough to sound completely different, I mean beyond what pitch
control can do .. male doing female etc

Mike




Brian Franz wrote:
>>Mike, I do part time work for a major radio station in Detroit, This
>>station uses Saw Pro for this kind of work. I am familiar with Saw
>>Pro, but choose to use Vegas over it,in my personal recording
studio,
>>because of it's user interface. Both programs do the same type of
>>work. You will definitely want to choose Vegas over Sound Forge for
>>this type of work. Vegas has multiple tracks, so that you can
>>overlay sweepers and such over songs and commercials....you can't do
>>that in Sound Forge. Vegas also has "non destructive" editing,
which
>>is very important, even in small productions like your asking to
>>do...sound forge does not. In short, Vegas is a multitrack
recording
>>production tool, and Sound forge is a 2 track editor and recorder.
>>So if you aren't gonna playback more than 1 sound at a time or don't
>>have to do editing between different sources of audio, then Sound
>>Forge might get you by. Vegas is the optimal tool and will get you
>>by with room to spare.
>>
>>Mike Perras wrote:
>>>>I run an FM radio station & want to use either Sound Forge
>>>>or Vegas Audio ... we don't do extremely complicated audio
>>>>production .. are there a few main points on either side
>>>>anyone might suggest for the best software for our use. I
>>>>like what I read on both but would appreciate a few other
>>>>thoughts.
>>>>
>>>>Many thanks,
>>>>
>>>>Mike

Subject:Re: Sound Forge or Vegas Audio

Reply by: Rednroll

Date:11/21/2000 3:28:00 PM

I'm not familiar with Acid loop libraries, I make my own or buy
Libraries from a company called East/West. I'm not sure if Acid
libraries are licensed under that kind of an advertising use? Write
them at techsupport to make sure. The company that I worked for used
Custom music libraries of music put on CD. There's a lot of music
production houses that offer these libraries, some examples are
DeWolfe,KPM,APM and Select Sounds. Basically it's canned music that
you pay for with a licensing fee and you can edit it as you wish.

Mike Perras wrote:
>>Thanks Brian ..
>>
>>I was playing with the Vegas demo .. very nice user inetrface, I
>>agree. Now, as someone who also appreciates what these tools can do
in
>>prod, tell your take on the ACID loops, like them? use them? and
maybe
>>suggest the better ones ... in addition to having your own library
of
>>music beds, you probably already make your own for spots &
especially
>>promos .. would you find the ACID feature beter for promos mostly?
>>
>>Now here's a good one for ya .. is there such an animal as a piece
of
>>software that can sample my voice & then have someone else do a
read,
>>using that sample & have it sound like me .. are we headed in that
>>direction? It seems we can do so much with video these days that
>>sooner or later that feature will be doable on the audio side ..
the
>>possibilities are staggering ... using the texture of someone
else's
>>voice, only to have another person actually do the read or still on
>>that subject, is there software out there can can at least alter
the
>>voice enough to sound completely different, I mean beyond what
pitch
>>control can do .. male doing female etc
>>
>>Mike
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>Brian Franz wrote:
>>>>Mike, I do part time work for a major radio station in Detroit,
This
>>>>station uses Saw Pro for this kind of work. I am familiar with
Saw
>>>>Pro, but choose to use Vegas over it,in my personal recording
>>studio,
>>>>because of it's user interface. Both programs do the same type of
>>>>work. You will definitely want to choose Vegas over Sound Forge
for
>>>>this type of work. Vegas has multiple tracks, so that you can
>>>>overlay sweepers and such over songs and commercials....you can't
do
>>>>that in Sound Forge. Vegas also has "non destructive" editing,
>>which
>>>>is very important, even in small productions like your asking to
>>>>do...sound forge does not. In short, Vegas is a multitrack
>>recording
>>>>production tool, and Sound forge is a 2 track editor and
recorder.
>>>>So if you aren't gonna playback more than 1 sound at a time or
don't
>>>>have to do editing between different sources of audio, then Sound
>>>>Forge might get you by. Vegas is the optimal tool and will get
you
>>>>by with room to spare.
>>>>
>>>>Mike Perras wrote:
>>>>>>I run an FM radio station & want to use either Sound Forge
>>>>>>or Vegas Audio ... we don't do extremely complicated audio
>>>>>>production .. are there a few main points on either side
>>>>>>anyone might suggest for the best software for our use. I
>>>>>>like what I read on both but would appreciate a few other
>>>>>>thoughts.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Many thanks,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Mike

Subject:Re: Sound Forge or Vegas Audio

Reply by: garrigus

Date:11/23/2000 11:13:00 AM

Hi Guys,

I used ACID loops quite often, and most are good quality. They are
also royalty-free.

Best,
Scott

--
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Power! books, and Publisher of the DigiFreq music technology
newsletter. Learn about cool tips and techniques for your music
software by getting a FREE subscription to DigiFreq... surf to:
http://www.garrigus.com/




Brian Franz wrote:
>>I'm not familiar with Acid loop libraries, I make my own or buy
>>Libraries from a company called East/West. I'm not sure if Acid
>>libraries are licensed under that kind of an advertising use?
Write
>>them at techsupport to make sure. The company that I worked for
used
>>Custom music libraries of music put on CD. There's a lot of music
>>production houses that offer these libraries, some examples are
>>DeWolfe,KPM,APM and Select Sounds. Basically it's canned music that
>>you pay for with a licensing fee and you can edit it as you wish.
>>
>>Mike Perras wrote:
>>>>Thanks Brian ..
>>>>
>>>>I was playing with the Vegas demo .. very nice user inetrface, I
>>>>agree. Now, as someone who also appreciates what these tools can
do
>>in
>>>>prod, tell your take on the ACID loops, like them? use them? and
>>maybe
>>>>suggest the better ones ... in addition to having your own
library
>>of
>>>>music beds, you probably already make your own for spots &
>>especially
>>>>promos .. would you find the ACID feature beter for promos mostly?
>>>>
>>>>Now here's a good one for ya .. is there such an animal as a
piece
>>of
>>>>software that can sample my voice & then have someone else do a
>>read,
>>>>using that sample & have it sound like me .. are we headed in
that
>>>>direction? It seems we can do so much with video these days that
>>>>sooner or later that feature will be doable on the audio side ..
>>the
>>>>possibilities are staggering ... using the texture of someone
>>else's
>>>>voice, only to have another person actually do the read or still
on
>>>>that subject, is there software out there can can at least alter
>>the
>>>>voice enough to sound completely different, I mean beyond what
>>pitch
>>>>control can do .. male doing female etc
>>>>
>>>>Mike
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Brian Franz wrote:
>>>>>>Mike, I do part time work for a major radio station in Detroit,
>>This
>>>>>>station uses Saw Pro for this kind of work. I am familiar with
>>Saw
>>>>>>Pro, but choose to use Vegas over it,in my personal recording
>>>>studio,
>>>>>>because of it's user interface. Both programs do the same type
of
>>>>>>work. You will definitely want to choose Vegas over Sound Forge
>>for
>>>>>>this type of work. Vegas has multiple tracks, so that you can
>>>>>>overlay sweepers and such over songs and commercials....you
can't
>>do
>>>>>>that in Sound Forge. Vegas also has "non destructive" editing,
>>>>which
>>>>>>is very important, even in small productions like your asking
to
>>>>>>do...sound forge does not. In short, Vegas is a multitrack
>>>>recording
>>>>>>production tool, and Sound forge is a 2 track editor and
>>recorder.
>>>>>>So if you aren't gonna playback more than 1 sound at a time or
>>don't
>>>>>>have to do editing between different sources of audio, then
Sound
>>>>>>Forge might get you by. Vegas is the optimal tool and will get
>>you
>>>>>>by with room to spare.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Mike Perras wrote:
>>>>>>>>I run an FM radio station & want to use either Sound Forge
>>>>>>>>or Vegas Audio ... we don't do extremely complicated audio
>>>>>>>>production .. are there a few main points on either side
>>>>>>>>anyone might suggest for the best software for our use. I
>>>>>>>>like what I read on both but would appreciate a few other
>>>>>>>>thoughts.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Many thanks,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Mike