Subject:Creating an Audio CD for use in my home CD Player

Posted by: Khalidsattar

Date:9/22/2000 9:07:00 AM

Hello,
I am new to this product as well sound editing. I recorded
an audio tape onto my computer and saved it as a .WAV
file. I have an HP CD-RW (I use the HP CD-Writer software
which came with my burner) and want to record the file so I
can listen in my home CD Player.

I tried just burning the .WAV file, but it would not play.
What am I missing? What did I do wrong?

Please use laymans terms and be as detailed as possible
while get the hang of this. I use SOund Forge 4.5.

thanks
Khalid Sattar

Subject:Re: Creating an Audio CD for use in my home CD Player

Reply by: Rednroll

Date:9/22/2000 2:56:00 PM

Well I'm not quite familiar with the HP software that comes packaged
with that writer, but see if there's a menu item to "Create Audio
CD" or something to that affect. Most Cdr software has this option
and it let's you drag wave files into a playlist which then become
audio tracks which will play on a CD player. It's most likely you're
creating a CD Rom and just saving the Wav. file to the CDrom. If you
can't find this type of menu item...first look in your help file and
do a search on "Audio CD" and see if your software can do this. If
it can't you'll have to buy a real Cdr software program that does
this. I recommend Nero, and then Cdrwin. Nero allows you to drag
MP3 files along with wave files to create audio CDs. Adaptec EZ CD
creator is another favorite of some people also. SF has just
discontinued CD Arch which added this functionality to Sound Forge so
you're out of luck in that area.

Hope this helps

Khalid wrote:
>>Hello,
>>I am new to this product as well sound editing. I recorded
>>an audio tape onto my computer and saved it as a .WAV
>>file. I have an HP CD-RW (I use the HP CD-Writer software
>>which came with my burner) and want to record the file so I
>>can listen in my home CD Player.
>>
>>I tried just burning the .WAV file, but it would not play.
>>What am I missing? What did I do wrong?
>>
>>Please use laymans terms and be as detailed as possible
>>while get the hang of this. I use SOund Forge 4.5.
>>
>>thanks
>>Khalid Sattar

Subject:Re: Creating an Audio CD for use in my home CD Player

Reply by: Khalidsattar

Date:9/23/2000 11:21:00 AM

Thanks Brian,
I tried that and realized that the software will only recognize mp3's
(which I do not know how to save to) and .wav files with sample rates
of 44,100 hz, sample size of 16 bit and stereo channels.

But I am recording voice only, so this makes my files very big. Is
this a limitation of my cd-burning software or is there some way
around this?

thanks again
khalid


Brian Franz wrote:
>>Well I'm not quite familiar with the HP software that comes packaged
>>with that writer, but see if there's a menu item to "Create Audio
>>CD" or something to that affect. Most Cdr software has this
option
>>and it let's you drag wave files into a playlist which then become
>>audio tracks which will play on a CD player. It's most likely
you're
>>creating a CD Rom and just saving the Wav. file to the CDrom. If
you
>>can't find this type of menu item...first look in your help file
and
>>do a search on "Audio CD" and see if your software can do this. If
>>it can't you'll have to buy a real Cdr software program that does
>>this. I recommend Nero, and then Cdrwin. Nero allows you to drag
>>MP3 files along with wave files to create audio CDs. Adaptec EZ CD
>>creator is another favorite of some people also. SF has just
>>discontinued CD Arch which added this functionality to Sound Forge
so
>>you're out of luck in that area.
>>
>>Hope this helps
>>
>>Khalid wrote:
>>>>Hello,
>>>>I am new to this product as well sound editing. I recorded
>>>>an audio tape onto my computer and saved it as a .WAV
>>>>file. I have an HP CD-RW (I use the HP CD-Writer software
>>>>which came with my burner) and want to record the file so I
>>>>can listen in my home CD Player.
>>>>
>>>>I tried just burning the .WAV file, but it would not play.
>>>>What am I missing? What did I do wrong?
>>>>
>>>>Please use laymans terms and be as detailed as possible
>>>>while get the hang of this. I use SOund Forge 4.5.
>>>>
>>>>thanks
>>>>Khalid Sattar

Subject:Re: Creating an Audio CD for use in my home CD Player

Reply by: Rednroll

Date:9/23/2000 8:50:00 PM

sounds kinda strange that the software will only do MP3 files and not
.Wav files. Well you can save your files in Sound Forge easy enough
by going to the "Save as" file menu and do a Save as MP3. Then
Sound Forge will save it as an MP3 file for you, then go burn away.

Khalid wrote:
>>Thanks Brian,
>>I tried that and realized that the software will only recognize
mp3's
>>(which I do not know how to save to) and .wav files with sample
rates
>>of 44,100 hz, sample size of 16 bit and stereo channels.
>>
>>But I am recording voice only, so this makes my files very big. Is
>>this a limitation of my cd-burning software or is there some way
>>around this?
>>
>>thanks again
>>khalid
>>
>>
>>Brian Franz wrote:
>>>>Well I'm not quite familiar with the HP software that comes
packaged
>>>>with that writer, but see if there's a menu item to "Create Audio
>>>>CD" or something to that affect. Most Cdr software has this
>>option
>>>>and it let's you drag wave files into a playlist which then
become
>>>>audio tracks which will play on a CD player. It's most likely
>>you're
>>>>creating a CD Rom and just saving the Wav. file to the CDrom. If
>>you
>>>>can't find this type of menu item...first look in your help file
>>and
>>>>do a search on "Audio CD" and see if your software can do this.
If
>>>>it can't you'll have to buy a real Cdr software program that does
>>>>this. I recommend Nero, and then Cdrwin. Nero allows you to
drag
>>>>MP3 files along with wave files to create audio CDs. Adaptec EZ
CD
>>>>creator is another favorite of some people also. SF has just
>>>>discontinued CD Arch which added this functionality to Sound
Forge
>>so
>>>>you're out of luck in that area.
>>>>
>>>>Hope this helps
>>>>
>>>>Khalid wrote:
>>>>>>Hello,
>>>>>>I am new to this product as well sound editing. I recorded
>>>>>>an audio tape onto my computer and saved it as a .WAV
>>>>>>file. I have an HP CD-RW (I use the HP CD-Writer software
>>>>>>which came with my burner) and want to record the file so I
>>>>>>can listen in my home CD Player.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I tried just burning the .WAV file, but it would not play.
>>>>>>What am I missing? What did I do wrong?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Please use laymans terms and be as detailed as possible
>>>>>>while get the hang of this. I use SOund Forge 4.5.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>thanks
>>>>>>Khalid Sattar

Subject:Re: Creating an Audio CD for use in my home CD Player

Reply by: Khalidsattar

Date:9/26/2000 12:37:00 AM

Thanks agian Brian,
Actually my software does pick up .WAV, but only if they have been
set to "44,100 hz, sample size of 16 bit and stereo channels," which
makes the files pretty big, especially since I am working with voice
recordings only.

I can save as MP3, but the quality is not good enough.

Any other suggestions? Does your burner software allow you to
burn .WAV files recorded at anything other than 44,100 hz, sample
size of 16 bit and stereo channels?

thanks
khalid



Brian Franz wrote:
>>sounds kinda strange that the software will only do MP3 files and
not
>>.Wav files. Well you can save your files in Sound Forge easy
enough
>>by going to the "Save as" file menu and do a Save as MP3. Then
>>Sound Forge will save it as an MP3 file for you, then go burn
away.
>>
>>Khalid wrote:
>>>>Thanks Brian,
>>>>I tried that and realized that the software will only recognize
>>mp3's
>>>>(which I do not know how to save to) and .wav files with sample
>>rates
>>>>of 44,100 hz, sample size of 16 bit and stereo channels.
>>>>
>>>>But I am recording voice only, so this makes my files very big.
Is
>>>>this a limitation of my cd-burning software or is there some way
>>>>around this?
>>>>
>>>>thanks again
>>>>khalid
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Brian Franz wrote:
>>>>>>Well I'm not quite familiar with the HP software that comes
>>packaged
>>>>>>with that writer, but see if there's a menu item to "Create
Audio
>>>>>>CD" or something to that affect. Most Cdr software has this
>>>>option
>>>>>>and it let's you drag wave files into a playlist which then
>>become
>>>>>>audio tracks which will play on a CD player. It's most likely
>>>>you're
>>>>>>creating a CD Rom and just saving the Wav. file to the CDrom.
If
>>>>you
>>>>>>can't find this type of menu item...first look in your help
file
>>>>and
>>>>>>do a search on "Audio CD" and see if your software can do
this.
>>If
>>>>>>it can't you'll have to buy a real Cdr software program that
does
>>>>>>this. I recommend Nero, and then Cdrwin. Nero allows you to
>>drag
>>>>>>MP3 files along with wave files to create audio CDs. Adaptec
EZ
>>CD
>>>>>>creator is another favorite of some people also. SF has just
>>>>>>discontinued CD Arch which added this functionality to Sound
>>Forge
>>>>so
>>>>>>you're out of luck in that area.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Hope this helps
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Khalid wrote:
>>>>>>>>Hello,
>>>>>>>>I am new to this product as well sound editing. I recorded
>>>>>>>>an audio tape onto my computer and saved it as a .WAV
>>>>>>>>file. I have an HP CD-RW (I use the HP CD-Writer software
>>>>>>>>which came with my burner) and want to record the file so I
>>>>>>>>can listen in my home CD Player.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>I tried just burning the .WAV file, but it would not play.
>>>>>>>>What am I missing? What did I do wrong?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Please use laymans terms and be as detailed as possible
>>>>>>>>while get the hang of this. I use SOund Forge 4.5.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>thanks
>>>>>>>>Khalid Sattar

Subject:Re: Creating an Audio CD for use in my home CD Player

Reply by: Rednroll

Date:9/27/2000 12:45:00 AM

I usually work with 44.1Khz Stereo files, I have plenty of hard drive
space so that is not my concern. Why don't you just convert your
.Wav files to 44.1Khz Stereo then using Sound Forge and then delete
these files once you've burned them to CD. You can change mono to
stereo files by right clicking on the waveform and then select
"Format" Tab and then check the "Stereo" option. Do not change the
sample rate here to 44.1Khz, because this does not actually change the
sample rate for you if you're at 48Khz, it just changes the properties
how Sound Forge plays back the waveform. Hit OK and follow the steps,
and then goto the "Process" menu item and select "Resample", this is
where you can change the sample rate to 44.1Khz. Now you should have
a 44.1Khz stereo file, which you can use to burn on your software. I
recommend this method of conversion than using a 48Khz mono file and
letting some CDR software do these same conversions for you. Sound
Forge does a much better job for you, and basically that's what the
end product has to be anyways to comply with the standard CD audio
format, which is 44.1Khz 16 bit Stereo. Thus if you save to MP3 then
you're
losing signal quality with MP3 compression and then you're losing
signal quality when your CDR software has to take that MP3 file and
convert it to 44.1Khz 16 bit Stereo for you. You cannot burn an audio
CD at any other sample rates or bit debts, which takes you into the
ongoing debate of audio people of why 24bit 96Khz sample rates? when
your end product can only be 16bit 44.1Khz. The answer is
"marketing", companies selling the uneducated consumber crap that
they really don't need, and this message will now probably get some
moron arguing with me of how 96Khz 24bit sounds so much better than
16bit 44.1Khz. More bits is a good improvement, but the higher
sampling rates does nothing but eat twice the amount of valuable hard
drive space and those who will argue with that point, don't truly
understand the terms "Nyquest Theorem" and "Digital Aliasing", and I
will defy anyone to listen to 2 of the same audio recordings and be
able to tell me the difference between the one recorded at 44.1khz vs.
96Khz.

Khalid wrote:
>>Thanks agian Brian,
>>Actually my software does pick up .WAV, but only if they have been
>>set to "44,100 hz, sample size of 16 bit and stereo channels," which
>>makes the files pretty big, especially since I am working with voice
>>recordings only.
>>
>>I can save as MP3, but the quality is not good enough.
>>
>>Any other suggestions? Does your burner software allow you to
>>burn .WAV files recorded at anything other than 44,100 hz, sample
>>size of 16 bit and stereo channels?
>>
>>thanks
>>khalid
>>
>>
>>
>>Brian Franz wrote:
>>>>sounds kinda strange that the software will only do MP3 files and
>>not
>>>>.Wav files. Well you can save your files in Sound Forge easy
>>enough
>>>>by going to the "Save as" file menu and do a Save as MP3. Then
>>>>Sound Forge will save it as an MP3 file for you, then go burn
>>away.
>>>>
>>>>Khalid wrote:
>>>>>>Thanks Brian,
>>>>>>I tried that and realized that the software will only recognize
>>>>mp3's
>>>>>>(which I do not know how to save to) and .wav files with sample
>>>>rates
>>>>>>of 44,100 hz, sample size of 16 bit and stereo channels.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>But I am recording voice only, so this makes my files very big.

>>Is
>>>>>>this a limitation of my cd-burning software or is there some way
>>>>>>around this?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>thanks again
>>>>>>khalid
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Brian Franz wrote:
>>>>>>>>Well I'm not quite familiar with the HP software that comes
>>>>packaged
>>>>>>>>with that writer, but see if there's a menu item to "Create
>>Audio
>>>>>>>>CD" or something to that affect. Most Cdr software has this
>>>>>>option
>>>>>>>>and it let's you drag wave files into a playlist which then
>>>>become
>>>>>>>>audio tracks which will play on a CD player. It's most likely
>>>>>>you're
>>>>>>>>creating a CD Rom and just saving the Wav. file to the CDrom.

>>If
>>>>>>you
>>>>>>>>can't find this type of menu item...first look in your help
>>file
>>>>>>and
>>>>>>>>do a search on "Audio CD" and see if your software can do
>>this.
>>>>If
>>>>>>>>it can't you'll have to buy a real Cdr software program that
>>does
>>>>>>>>this. I recommend Nero, and then Cdrwin. Nero allows you to
>>>>drag
>>>>>>>>MP3 files along with wave files to create audio CDs. Adaptec
>>EZ
>>>>CD
>>>>>>>>creator is another favorite of some people also. SF has just
>>>>>>>>discontinued CD Arch which added this functionality to Sound
>>>>Forge
>>>>>>so
>>>>>>>>you're out of luck in that area.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Hope this helps
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Khalid wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>Hello,
>>>>>>>>>>I am new to this product as well sound editing. I recorded
>>>>>>>>>>an audio tape onto my computer and saved it as a .WAV
>>>>>>>>>>file. I have an HP CD-RW (I use the HP CD-Writer software
>>>>>>>>>>which came with my burner) and want to record the file so I
>>>>>>>>>>can listen in my home CD Player.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>I tried just burning the .WAV file, but it would not play.
>>>>>>>>>>What am I missing? What did I do wrong?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Please use laymans terms and be as detailed as possible
>>>>>>>>>>while get the hang of this. I use SOund Forge 4.5.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>thanks
>>>>>>>>>>Khalid Sattar