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Subject:Sound Forge and MP3's Posted by: rusticitas Date:5/25/2000 7:18:00 PM Will Sonic Foundry consider making the export of [unlimited] MP3's PART of the whole package, rather than a $19.95 plug-in? I feel that for $499 they should just be part of the package, same with CD Architect. Overall, the reason I haven't YET purchased your software is that I feel like you're "nickle'n'diming" your users... Having to pay for every little bit of usefulness. I would like the companies comments on that. And frankly, Sound Forge 4.5 + CD Architect + MP3 Plugin = $499 + $299 + $19.95 = $817.95 seems VERY pricey. The demos I've tried don't seem to offer $800 worth of functionality. I would appreciate constructive comments back (no flames please). I just want to know what I'm getting for that much money -- I need performance and functionality and an easy (and INEXPENSIVE) upgrade path -- not a name. Thanks!
Subject:Re: Sound Forge and MP3's Reply by: pauly Date:5/26/2000 5:50:00 AM Check out the Mastering House bundle.I have seen it as low as $299 at Musicians Friend or Sweetwater, $499 at the most! This gives you SF4.5, CD arch, and EFX 1 and 2! Pauly S. P. J. wrote: >>Will Sonic Foundry consider making the export of >>[unlimited] MP3's PART of the whole package, rather than a >>$19.95 plug-in? I feel that for $499 they should just be >>part of the package, same with CD Architect. Overall, the >>reason I haven't YET purchased your software is that I >>feel like you're "nickle'n'diming" your users... Having to >>pay for every little bit of usefulness. I would like the >>companies comments on that. And frankly, Sound Forge 4.5 + >>CD Architect + MP3 Plugin = $499 + $299 + $19.95 = $817.95 >>seems VERY pricey. The demos I've tried don't seem to >>offer $800 worth of functionality. I would appreciate >>constructive comments back (no flames please). I just want >>to know what I'm getting for that much money -- I need >>performance and functionality and an easy (and INEXPENSIVE) >>upgrade path -- not a name. Thanks!
Subject:Re: Sound Forge and MP3's Reply by: DavidW12 Date:5/31/2000 8:55:00 AM One way to look at the pricing structure is NOT paying for something you don't need. Good software is expensive. Sound Forge is in the business of making money, and if they fail there won't be any $19.95 add-ons to cry over. In order to support the products they sell, support people must be hired. They don't work for free. They also require office space to work in. That too costs money. Add in the typical overhead involved, and research folks to keep improving the existing products and develop new products, and you can start to see why software costs so much. If re-sellers are involved, there must be some incentive for customers to buy from them instead of directly from the company who makes the product. Not all re-sellers charge the retail price. That is what shopping around is all about. Try www.pricewatch.com if you're in the market to buy something. Finally, I think most of the users of the higher-end Sound Forge products are professionals where such costs as software is a business expense and can be deducted from taxes. Price broadcast equipment sometime. The only thing you'll find in broadcast hardware that costs $19.95 is a 10-24 bolt. S. P. J. wrote: >>Will Sonic Foundry consider making the export of >>[unlimited] MP3's PART of the whole package, rather than a >>$19.95 plug-in? I feel that for $499 they should just be >>part of the package, same with CD Architect. Overall, the >>reason I haven't YET purchased your software is that I >>feel like you're "nickle'n'diming" your users... Having to >>pay for every little bit of usefulness. I would like the >>companies comments on that. And frankly, Sound Forge 4.5 + >>CD Architect + MP3 Plugin = $499 + $299 + $19.95 = $817.95 >>seems VERY pricey. The demos I've tried don't seem to >>offer $800 worth of functionality. I would appreciate >>constructive comments back (no flames please). I just want >>to know what I'm getting for that much money -- I need >>performance and functionality and an easy (and INEXPENSIVE) >>upgrade path -- not a name. Thanks!
Subject:Re: Sound Forge and MP3's Reply by: alirude Date:7/22/2000 10:48:00 PM David Wachenschwanz wrote: >>One way to look at the pricing structure is NOT paying for something >>you don't need. >> >>Good software is expensive. Sound Forge is in the business of making >>money, and if they fail there won't be any $19.95 add-ons to cry over. >> >>In order to support the products they sell, support people must be >>hired. They don't work for free. They also require office space to >>work in. That too costs money. Add in the typical overhead >>involved, and research folks to keep improving the existing products >>and develop new products, and you can start to see why software costs >>so much. >> >>If re-sellers are involved, there must be some incentive for >>customers to buy from them instead of directly from the company who >>makes the product. Not all re-sellers charge the retail price. That >>is what shopping around is all about. Try www.pricewatch.com if >>you're in the market to buy something. >> >>Finally, I think most of the users of the higher-end Sound Forge >>products are professionals where such costs as software is a business >>expense and can be deducted from taxes. Price broadcast equipment >>sometime. The only thing you'll find in broadcast hardware that >>costs $19.95 is a 10-24 bolt. >> >> >> >>S. P. J. wrote: >>>>Will Sonic Foundry consider making the export of >>>>[unlimited] MP3's PART of the whole package, rather than a >>>>$19.95 plug-in? I feel that for $499 they should just be >>>>part of the package, same with CD Architect. Overall, the >>>>reason I haven't YET purchased your software is that I >>>>feel like you're "nickle'n'diming" your users... Having to >>>>pay for every little bit of usefulness. I would like the >>>>companies comments on that. And frankly, Sound Forge 4.5 + >>>>CD Architect + MP3 Plugin = $499 + $299 + $19.95 = $817.95 >>>>seems VERY pricey. The demos I've tried don't seem to >>>>offer $800 worth of functionality. I would appreciate >>>>constructive comments back (no flames please). I just want >>>>to know what I'm getting for that much money -- I need >>>>performance and functionality and an easy (and INEXPENSIVE) >>>>upgrade path -- not a name. Thanks!
Subject:Re: Sound Forge and MP3's Reply by: alirude Date:7/22/2000 10:54:00 PM I posted this and relized it belongs here. Good software does warrant higher dollars but when the loyal customer is sent on a wild goose chase and misled that is different. SF should have made it more clear that 4.5 was a new relase not an upgrade. 4.0 users were made to pay another $100. for plugins and patch, we did not have the choice. I think many of us thought this was a free upgrade. I have never seen a version upgrade with a cost assoicated to it.(Not even Microsoft pulls that) Good software Good value and loyal customers. I will always pay for good software, but when it is this difficult, I do not think it is fair I purchased S.Forge 4.x over a year ago I guess, and anixouslly awaited the MP3 capablilities. Every indicator pointed to a free upgrade (to Version 4.5) makes sense. My Cakewalk products changed verisons and there was a small cost. (fair) But with S.F. I am told after trying to upgrade with the online patch, only to find it required the Original CD. Which I finally found and it still did not work. Then I am told that I must have 4.5 CD to upgrade.(does not make sense) From here I go to the Web to find out what this entails and low and behold. I have to pay another $100. or so. That does not make sense. If I am an owner of 4.x, then why do I have to purchase an update within the current version. So I finally decide to purchase an online upgrade, only to find the upgrades say versions 2.0 and 3.0 not 4.0!!!! Forget IT I will use Cakewalk to do my MP3 Encoding. It is not near as good as Sound Forge (As you know) but I am weary of the way that current licencse holding customers are being jacked up. The upgrade is good, But I don't think that $100. is fair for the ability to do MP3. I am a believer in paying for good software, but you are making it very difficult to be a paying customer. Thanks for listening (I feels much better) TG David Wachenschwanz wrote: >>One way to look at the pricing structure is NOT paying for something >>you don't need. >> >>Good software is expensive. Sound Forge is in the business of making >>money, and if they fail there won't be any $19.95 add-ons to cry over. >> >>In order to support the products they sell, support people must be >>hired. They don't work for free. They also require office space to >>work in. That too costs money. Add in the typical overhead >>involved, and research folks to keep improving the existing products >>and develop new products, and you can start to see why software costs >>so much. >> >>If re-sellers are involved, there must be some incentive for >>customers to buy from them instead of directly from the company who >>makes the product. Not all re-sellers charge the retail price. That >>is what shopping around is all about. Try www.pricewatch.com if >>you're in the market to buy something. >> >>Finally, I think most of the users of the higher-end Sound Forge >>products are professionals where such costs as software is a business >>expense and can be deducted from taxes. Price broadcast equipment >>sometime. The only thing you'll find in broadcast hardware that >>costs $19.95 is a 10-24 bolt. >> >> >> >>S. P. J. wrote: >>>>Will Sonic Foundry consider making the export of >>>>[unlimited] MP3's PART of the whole package, rather than a >>>>$19.95 plug-in? I feel that for $499 they should just be >>>>part of the package, same with CD Architect. Overall, the >>>>reason I haven't YET purchased your software is that I >>>>feel like you're "nickle'n'diming" your users... Having to >>>>pay for every little bit of usefulness. I would like the >>>>companies comments on that. And frankly, Sound Forge 4.5 + >>>>CD Architect + MP3 Plugin = $499 + $299 + $19.95 = $817.95 >>>>seems VERY pricey. The demos I've tried don't seem to >>>>offer $800 worth of functionality. I would appreciate >>>>constructive comments back (no flames please). I just want >>>>to know what I'm getting for that much money -- I need >>>>performance and functionality and an easy (and INEXPENSIVE) >>>>upgrade path -- not a name. Thanks!

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