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Subject:NEED ADVICE Posted by: STICKMAN Date:10/29/2000 11:34:00 AM I've been a songwriter for several years now, but have never tried using this loop process contained in this software. I don't want to seem cheap here, but I have some questions I hope some of you may be able to answer. The loops that were included with Acid Music 2.0 appear to be samples of the loop discs that are availble from Sonic Foundry. I really haven't invested too much time with this software yet, and so far I'm impressed. Here's the problem. I write country and most of the loops that I have listened to are more rock and pop oriented. I looked at the loop discs offered on Sonic's web site and see they have one for country music. So, here are my questions. Hope someone can answer them for me with an unbiased opinion. 1: After spending $60 on the basic program, is it worth another $60 for the loop discs? 2: Does the country loop disc have different rythyms and beats as far as percussion to be able to write in different modes, such as ballads, up-tempo etc? 3: Are there other loop discs that would be useful for a country songwriter? Thank you anyone who can give me some answers. Like I said I don't want to seem cheap, but then again, I don't want to spend more money on software that I may not be able to use to write with.
Subject:Re: NEED ADVICE Reply by: Rednroll Date:10/29/2000 5:38:00 PM I'm not familiar with the country loop disk made by Sonic Foundry. Most of their libraries I've heard seem to be very good. I currently don't own any Acid Loop disks, I use "East West" sample disks or create my own loops. East West is one of the larger companies that make Sample Loop libraries and have a very big selection to choose from. The only difference is that the East West library loops are not "Acidized", they're just audio loops. You need a sound editor like Sound Forge to actually "Acidize" them. Acidizing is done by creating the loop region yourself and assigning it the Acid properties, like telling it how many beats your loop is and what key signature it's in or if it's a percussion loop. That's the only difference that Acid Libraries have been "Acidized", which makes them customized for use with Acid. I think there's a way to do these looping tools using Acid also, but I'm not accustom to doing it that way, so I couldn't help you with that. Hope this helps SCOTT ALLISON wrote: >>I've been a songwriter for several years now, but have never >>tried using this loop process contained in this software. I >>don't want to seem cheap here, but I have some questions I >>hope some of you may be able to answer. The loops that were >>included with Acid Music 2.0 appear to be samples of the >>loop discs that are availble from Sonic Foundry. I really >>haven't invested too much time with this software yet, and >>so far I'm impressed. Here's the problem. I write country >>and most of the loops that I have listened to are more rock >>and pop oriented. I looked at the loop discs offered on >>Sonic's web site and see they have one for country music. >>So, here are my questions. Hope someone can answer them for >>me with an unbiased opinion. >> >>1: After spending $60 on the basic program, is it worth >>another $60 for the loop discs? >>2: Does the country loop disc have different rythyms and >>beats as far as percussion to be able to write in different >>modes, such as ballads, up-tempo etc? >>3: Are there other loop discs that would be useful for a >>country songwriter? >> >> Thank you anyone who can give me some answers. Like I said >>I don't want to seem cheap, but then again, I don't want to >>spend more money on software that I may not be able to use >>to write with.
Subject:Re: NEED ADVICE Reply by: aew Date:10/31/2000 3:56:00 AM Brian & Scott The answer for Scott is yes but you have to have a good look around. I too use loops for contempory music but in order to do this you may need to creat your loops from CDA format disks, use a ripper and convert to wave format. Ripper? Real Jukebox will convert from CDA to Wave format and you can get it free from RealPlayer. You may need to set your loop region markers to extract the loop piece that you require. But that is another story. Brian: You do not need to go to Soundforge to Acidize your loops. Once the loop is saved in the track view, go to properties/event and change from "Don't Transpose" to a root note A, B, E what ever. Now your loop track is Acidized. Nick
Subject:Re: NEED ADVICE Reply by: aew Date:11/3/2000 2:00:00 PM What is the question here?

Subject:NEED ADVICE

Posted by: STICKMAN

Date:10/29/2000 11:34:00 AM

I've been a songwriter for several years now, but have never
tried using this loop process contained in this software. I
don't want to seem cheap here, but I have some questions I
hope some of you may be able to answer. The loops that were
included with Acid Music 2.0 appear to be samples of the
loop discs that are availble from Sonic Foundry. I really
haven't invested too much time with this software yet, and
so far I'm impressed. Here's the problem. I write country
and most of the loops that I have listened to are more rock
and pop oriented. I looked at the loop discs offered on
Sonic's web site and see they have one for country music.
So, here are my questions. Hope someone can answer them for
me with an unbiased opinion.

1: After spending $60 on the basic program, is it worth
another $60 for the loop discs?
2: Does the country loop disc have different rythyms and
beats as far as percussion to be able to write in different
modes, such as ballads, up-tempo etc?
3: Are there other loop discs that would be useful for a
country songwriter?

Thank you anyone who can give me some answers. Like I said
I don't want to seem cheap, but then again, I don't want to
spend more money on software that I may not be able to use
to write with.

Subject:Re: NEED ADVICE

Reply by: Rednroll

Date:10/29/2000 5:38:00 PM

I'm not familiar with the country loop disk made by Sonic Foundry.
Most of their libraries I've heard seem to be very good. I currently
don't own any Acid Loop disks, I use "East West" sample disks or
create my own loops. East West is one of the larger companies that
make Sample Loop libraries and have a very big selection to choose
from. The only difference is that the East West library loops are
not "Acidized", they're just audio loops. You need a sound editor
like Sound Forge to actually "Acidize" them. Acidizing is done by
creating the loop region yourself and assigning it the Acid
properties, like telling it how many beats your loop is and what key
signature it's in or if it's a percussion loop. That's the only
difference that Acid Libraries have been "Acidized", which makes them
customized for use with Acid. I think there's a way to do these
looping tools using Acid also, but I'm not accustom to doing it that
way, so I couldn't help you with that.

Hope this helps

SCOTT ALLISON wrote:
>>I've been a songwriter for several years now, but have never
>>tried using this loop process contained in this software. I
>>don't want to seem cheap here, but I have some questions I
>>hope some of you may be able to answer. The loops that were
>>included with Acid Music 2.0 appear to be samples of the
>>loop discs that are availble from Sonic Foundry. I really
>>haven't invested too much time with this software yet, and
>>so far I'm impressed. Here's the problem. I write country
>>and most of the loops that I have listened to are more rock
>>and pop oriented. I looked at the loop discs offered on
>>Sonic's web site and see they have one for country music.
>>So, here are my questions. Hope someone can answer them for
>>me with an unbiased opinion.
>>
>>1: After spending $60 on the basic program, is it worth
>>another $60 for the loop discs?
>>2: Does the country loop disc have different rythyms and
>>beats as far as percussion to be able to write in different
>>modes, such as ballads, up-tempo etc?
>>3: Are there other loop discs that would be useful for a
>>country songwriter?
>>
>> Thank you anyone who can give me some answers. Like I said
>>I don't want to seem cheap, but then again, I don't want to
>>spend more money on software that I may not be able to use
>>to write with.

Subject:Re: NEED ADVICE

Reply by: aew

Date:10/31/2000 3:56:00 AM

Brian & Scott
The answer for Scott is yes but you have to have a good look around.
I too use loops for contempory music but in order to do this you may
need to creat your loops from CDA format disks, use a ripper and
convert to wave format. Ripper? Real Jukebox will convert from CDA to
Wave format and you can get it free from RealPlayer.
You may need to set your loop region markers to extract the loop
piece that you require. But that is another story.

Brian: You do not need to go to Soundforge to Acidize your loops.
Once the loop is saved in the track view, go to properties/event and
change from "Don't Transpose" to a root note A, B, E what ever.
Now your loop track is Acidized.

Nick

Subject:Re: NEED ADVICE

Reply by: aew

Date:11/3/2000 2:00:00 PM

What is the question here?