Subject:ACID is sent back to the distributor by german stores, due to lack of sales ! :-(

Posted by: hemmerling

Date:8/30/2000 9:18:00 AM

Hello !

I would like to mention that in my hometown Hannover, home
of the EXPO 2000,

there were two sources to get ACID.

One of it, a big local store "Kaufhof", now sents back all
items of ACID style products (HipHOp, DJ, Rock), due to lack
of sales, to get space for new products of your competitors
(eJay, Magix, Mixman, Cubase)

So in fact, in a town with 500.000 local residents, with
800.000 people living in the area of Hannover, there is just
one other music shop left which offers an item of "Acid Pro
2.0" (just that, not Acid Music, no Acid Style), as
introductory offer with a loops package.

No problem to order all older ACID products in the Internet
from german vendors, indeed. Acid Latin + Techno are not
advertised in Germany, in fact.

O.k. there might be 10 other locations in Germany of that
size of Hannover and even bigger (Hamburg, Berlin, Ruhr
area, Frankfurt Area, Munich area,..), but I assume that the
situation is similar:

Lack of sales.

Don´t think that the software of your competitors is selling
better, it is just not resent back to the distributor. In
fact, old outdated versions of Magix products are available
here in Hannover at several stores (MusicMaker 2000).

In opposite, Cubase has good sales in music stores. I
learned that Cubase targets a different audience (musicians
with Midi devices)

This all is not caused by piracy but by lack of interest in
the products at all, by the general public.

I just wanted to let you know.
You get all the items back from german dealers - the
estimated sales were just pure imagination.

Sincerely
Rolf
still enjoying ACID Xpress 2.0

Subject:Re: ACID is sent back to the distributor by german stores, due to lack of sales ! :-(

Reply by: Kelly_S

Date:8/30/2000 12:43:00 PM

Hello Rolf.

I have forwarded your message off to our sales department, thank you
for informing us of this.



Rolf Hemmerling wrote:
>>Hello !
>>
>>I would like to mention that in my hometown Hannover, home
>>of the EXPO 2000,
>>
>>there were two sources to get ACID.
>>
>>One of it, a big local store "Kaufhof", now sents back all
>>items of ACID style products (HipHOp, DJ, Rock), due to lack
>>of sales, to get space for new products of your competitors
>>(eJay, Magix, Mixman, Cubase)
>>
>>So in fact, in a town with 500.000 local residents, with
>>800.000 people living in the area of Hannover, there is just
>>one other music shop left which offers an item of "Acid Pro
>>2.0" (just that, not Acid Music, no Acid Style), as
>>introductory offer with a loops package.
>>
>>No problem to order all older ACID products in the Internet
>>from german vendors, indeed. Acid Latin + Techno are not
>>advertised in Germany, in fact.
>>
>>O.k. there might be 10 other locations in Germany of that
>>size of Hannover and even bigger (Hamburg, Berlin, Ruhr
>>area, Frankfurt Area, Munich area,..), but I assume that the
>>situation is similar:
>>
>>Lack of sales.
>>
>>Don´t think that the software of your competitors is selling
>>better, it is just not resent back to the distributor. In
>>fact, old outdated versions of Magix products are available
>>here in Hannover at several stores (MusicMaker 2000).
>>
>>In opposite, Cubase has good sales in music stores. I
>>learned that Cubase targets a different audience (musicians
>>with Midi devices)
>>
>>This all is not caused by piracy but by lack of interest in
>>the products at all, by the general public.
>>
>>I just wanted to let you know.
>>You get all the items back from german dealers - the
>>estimated sales were just pure imagination.
>>
>>Sincerely
>>Rolf
>>still enjoying ACID Xpress 2.0
>>

Subject:Re: ACID is sent back to the distributor by german stores, due to lack of sales ! :-(

Reply by: Guido

Date:8/31/2000 7:36:00 AM

Hallo Rolf,

wir von Sound Service GmbH sind für den Vertriebskanal M.I./Broadcast
und Pro Audio zuständig. In diesem Vertriebskanal haben preiswerte
Software Produkte (bis ca. DM 199) keine große Marktbedeutung, da
insgesamt die Nachfrage fehlt. Die Zielgruppe für solche Produkte
wendet sich im Bedarfsfall nicht an den Musikhandel, sondern versucht
zuerst, in Kaufhäusern und technischen Supermärkten seinen Bedarf zu
decken.
Dennoch bevorraten wir sämtliche SONIC FOUNDRY Produkte, um im
Bedarfsfall unsere Kunden innerhalb von 24 Stunden versorgen zu
können.
Wir arbeiten in Hannover mit 3 Händlern zusammen, davon sind zwei
Music Stores: PPC und Brinkmann.
Micha Marienhagen von Brinkmann oder Jürgen Tietsch von PPC
können Dir innerhalb von 24 Std. alles von SONIC FOUNDRY besorgen!
Ausnahme: ACID Techno und Latin, da diese erst in den nächsten Tagen
an uns ausgeliefert werden.
Kaufhof wird von einem anderen Lieferanten versorgt.

Viele Dank für Deinen Input!

Guido Harding
www.soundservice.de


Rolf Hemmerling wrote:
>>Hello !
>>
>>I would like to mention that in my hometown Hannover, home
>>of the EXPO 2000,
>>
>>there were two sources to get ACID.
>>
>>One of it, a big local store "Kaufhof", now sents back all
>>items of ACID style products (HipHOp, DJ, Rock), due to lack
>>of sales, to get space for new products of your competitors
>>(eJay, Magix, Mixman, Cubase)
>>
>>So in fact, in a town with 500.000 local residents, with
>>800.000 people living in the area of Hannover, there is just
>>one other music shop left which offers an item of "Acid Pro
>>2.0" (just that, not Acid Music, no Acid Style), as
>>introductory offer with a loops package.
>>
>>No problem to order all older ACID products in the Internet
>>from german vendors, indeed. Acid Latin + Techno are not
>>advertised in Germany, in fact.
>>
>>O.k. there might be 10 other locations in Germany of that
>>size of Hannover and even bigger (Hamburg, Berlin, Ruhr
>>area, Frankfurt Area, Munich area,..), but I assume that the
>>situation is similar:
>>
>>Lack of sales.
>>
>>Don´t think that the software of your competitors is selling
>>better, it is just not resent back to the distributor. In
>>fact, old outdated versions of Magix products are available
>>here in Hannover at several stores (MusicMaker 2000).
>>
>>In opposite, Cubase has good sales in music stores. I
>>learned that Cubase targets a different audience (musicians
>>with Midi devices)
>>
>>This all is not caused by piracy but by lack of interest in
>>the products at all, by the general public.
>>
>>I just wanted to let you know.
>>You get all the items back from german dealers - the
>>estimated sales were just pure imagination.
>>
>>Sincerely
>>Rolf
>>still enjoying ACID Xpress 2.0
>>

Subject:Re: ACID is sent back to the distributor by german stores, due to lack of sales ! :-(

Reply by: hemmerling

Date:9/8/2000 9:15:00 AM

Thanks for the answer by the german support.

O.k. english-speaking folks (mostly not living in Germany):
With the help of the german distributors I found out that there are 3
vendors in Hannover ( 800.000 citizens live in the region of
Hannover), but two vendors just had each ONE Acid-Pro and nothing else
in their stocks. I still did not learn about the third one, but I
don´t expect a different situation.

Of course any vendors may order goods from their distributors by
request of customers, goods are delivered within 24 hours - no problem
in Germany, no problem in many other countries.

Nevertheless, the lack of sales of ACID products in Germany is
obvious: If goods are not in the stocks of local vendors, this is an
indication of low trade volumes.

And a big local store just delivered 10 packages of ACID-Style (Rock,
DJ,HipHOp) back to a distributor (not the one who answered) - because
of lack of sales.

Sincerely
Rolf