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Subject:ACID compatability with Digidesign DIGI 001?
Posted by: shawn_cushen
Date:6/16/2000 1:45:00 AM

A sales guy told me there might be compatability problems
using ACID with Digi 001 for Windows. Something about
Digidesign's proprietary properties. (He lost me in his
techno-babble.) He mentioned that other native Windows
audio programs are XG compatible. Was he talking about
importing .wav files from ACID into ProTools LE? Pro Tools LE's
possible inability to recognize ACID plug-ins? Or maybe the PCI card
and I/O configuration wouldn't be able to recognize ACID. Or
maybe he didn't know what he was talking about.

Any insight into this would be helpful. Thanks!

Subject:Re: ACID compatability with Digidesign DIGI 001?
Reply by: pwppch
Date:6/16/2000 8:38:00 AM

Not sure what he meant? Who did you talk to, a Sonic Foundry person?

I don't believe that the 001 has wave device drivers. This would be
one limitation.

XG compatible: Hmmm. XG compatible to me means the Yamaha synth/voice
architecture for many of this synths and voice technologies. This has
nothing to do with ACID - or the 001 as far as I know.

ACID uses DirectMedia (DirectX) plugins. I don't know whether the 001
supports these types of plugins.

Let me do some research...

Peter


Shawn Cushen wrote:
>>A sales guy told me there might be compatability problems
>>using ACID with Digi 001 for Windows. Something about
>>Digidesign's proprietary properties. (He lost me in his
>>techno-babble.) He mentioned that other native Windows
>>audio programs are XG compatible. Was he talking about
>>importing .wav files from ACID into ProTools LE? Pro Tools LE's
>>possible inability to recognize ACID plug-ins? Or maybe the PCI
card
>>and I/O configuration wouldn't be able to recognize ACID. Or
>>maybe he didn't know what he was talking about.
>>
>>Any insight into this would be helpful. Thanks!

Subject:Re: ACID compatability with Digidesign DIGI 001?
Reply by: pwppch
Date:6/16/2000 12:14:00 PM

>>I don't believe that the 001 has wave device drivers. This would be
>>one limitation.
>>

Update:
Yes, the 001 has wave drivers. All of our products can talk to it.
There is no support for the Direct I/0 interface that DIGI provides
so any special features of the hardware cannot be exposed in our
applications. There is no plans to support the 001 hardware directly.

Thanks
Peter




Subject:Re: ACID compatability with Digidesign DIGI 001?
Reply by: shawn_cushen
Date:6/16/2000 1:24:00 PM

>>Update:
>>Yes, the 001 has wave drivers. All of our products can talk to it.
>>There is no support for the Direct I/0 interface that DIGI provides
>>so any special features of the hardware cannot be exposed in our
>>applications. There is no plans to support the 001 hardware
directly.
>>
>>Thanks
>>Peter

Peter,

Thanks for your response. I really would like to put together a
system utilizing ACID and Digi 001. One clarification question:
when you say that "any special features of the hardware cannot be
exposed in our applications," what exactly do you mean? Do you mean
that I can't record .wav files into Sound Forge or ACID using that
I/O configuration?

If that's the case, then I suppose I'll have to have another sound
card compatible with SF products in order to do that.

I know that your time is valuable and I appreciate your help in
figuring this out.

Shawn

P.S. I found some info on the Digidesign users conference that might
help clarify:

Q: Can you use the 001 as the soundcard for all of your apps(games,
dvd, 24bit sound files)?
A: The Digi001 comes with a 2-channel wave driver, so it can be used
by any application which uses the standard wave audio API. It can
also be used by DirectSound applications via the DS-to-wave
translation layer which is built into the operating system. The wave
driver supports 16 and 24 bit audio natively, and 8 bit audio can
also be played if the correct ACM codecs are installed. So, the short
answer is: yes.
Eric Day
DAE Engineer

There is really nothing to set up once the WaveDriver is installed
and configured to be the preferred device in the Multimedia Control
Panel>Audio Tab window. The audio will route through Outputs 1 & 2
from the Digi001 hardware.

Subject:Re: ACID compatability with Digidesign DIGI 001?
Reply by: pwppch
Date:6/16/2000 7:55:00 PM

>>Thanks for your response. I really would like to put together a
>>system utilizing ACID and Digi 001. One clarification question:
>>when you say that "any special features of the hardware cannot be
>>exposed in our applications," what exactly do you mean? Do you
mean
>>that I can't record .wav files into Sound Forge or ACID using that
>>I/O configuration?
>>

I assume that the 001 has DSP and mixer type hardware features. These
types of things are not exposed through a Wave driver. Digi has a
driver model called Direct I/O that permits the control of the
hardware by applications that support this driver model. We do not
support it - or any other driver model. This means that you can
playback and record with the 001, but things like mixing, routing, FX
processing will not be available to your through any of our
applications.

Peter


Subject:Re: ACID compatability with Digidesign DIGI 001?
Reply by: MARKO
Date:7/9/2000 9:35:00 PM

Shawn -

Before you go out and buy the 001, make sure you know that the 001
does not fly on any AMD K-6 chips. Make sure you have a Pent. II or
III. AMD chips effect the preformance (host based) of the software
significantly.

Good luck,
Marco

Shawn Cushen wrote:
>>>>Update:
>>>>Yes, the 001 has wave drivers. All of our products can talk to it.
>>>>There is no support for the Direct I/0 interface that DIGI
provides
>>>>so any special features of the hardware cannot be exposed in our
>>>>applications. There is no plans to support the 001 hardware
>>directly.
>>>>
>>>>Thanks
>>>>Peter
>>
>>Peter,
>>
>>Thanks for your response. I really would like to put together a
>>system utilizing ACID and Digi 001. One clarification question:
>>when you say that "any special features of the hardware cannot be
>>exposed in our applications," what exactly do you mean? Do you mean
>>that I can't record .wav files into Sound Forge or ACID using that
>>I/O configuration?
>>
>>If that's the case, then I suppose I'll have to have another sound
>>card compatible with SF products in order to do that.
>>
>>I know that your time is valuable and I appreciate your help in
>>figuring this out.
>>
>>Shawn
>>
>>P.S. I found some info on the Digidesign users conference that
might
>>help clarify:
>>
>>Q: Can you use the 001 as the soundcard for all of your apps(games,
>>dvd, 24bit sound files)?
>>A: The Digi001 comes with a 2-channel wave driver, so it can be
used
>>by any application which uses the standard wave audio API. It can
>>also be used by DirectSound applications via the DS-to-wave
>>translation layer which is built into the operating system. The wave
>>driver supports 16 and 24 bit audio natively, and 8 bit audio can
>>also be played if the correct ACM codecs are installed. So, the
short
>>answer is: yes.
>>Eric Day
>>DAE Engineer
>>
>>There is really nothing to set up once the WaveDriver is installed
>>and configured to be the preferred device in the Multimedia Control
>>Panel>Audio Tab window. The audio will route through Outputs 1 & 2
>>from the Digi001 hardware.

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