Vegas 8a and Panasonic 10A Blu-Ray Player

alk3997 wrote on 11/26/2007, 10:00 AM
Before purchasing a Blu-Ray burner I thought I would try out Vegas 8a's Blu-Ray capability with DVD+R DL discs. I had what I thought was a good burn using Tools-Burn-Blu-Ray menu.

When I put the disc into a Panasonic 10A player, I received an "Unsup Port" message and the disc won't play. This is the same type of message the player generates when it has a firmware update it can't understand. Interestingly the disc is recognized as a Blu-Ray disc prior the error message.

I've updated to the latest Vegas version and the most recent 10A firmware.

Has anyone tried a DVD+R DL on the 10A in BL mode? Do you think I would see the same problem with a real Blu-Ray disc?

Thanks for any suggestions / help.

Andy

Comments

4eyes wrote on 11/26/2007, 10:42 AM
I've found that burning DL DVD's is hit & miss & really depends on the dvd burner along with the DL media.
Verbatim DL dvd's are said to be the most compatible.
I would make sure a single layer dvd works first, using both a DVD-R and then a DVD+R disk.
Some readers have problems with +R dvd's.

If they work and you already had problems with burning DL from Vegas then I would create an ISO file and use a program like Nero to burn the DL dvd. At the same time when using Nero before loading the ISO image under the recorder section, select your dvd burner, click on advanced/options and change the "BookType" to DVD-ROM. This makes the +DL dvd's more compatible.
You would think that with new equipment on the market this changing of the BookType shouldn't be necessary, but it is on even some of the new readers.
alk3997 wrote on 11/26/2007, 12:20 PM
Excellent advice. Thank you! I will try those steps tonight and see what happens.

Andy
apit34356 wrote on 11/26/2007, 3:40 PM
alk3997, are you trying this under VISA os?
vicmilt wrote on 11/26/2007, 3:48 PM
I personally have had wonderful results burning Blu-Ray from Vegas 8a [Tools>Burn Disc] and playback in PS3 as a System>Data playback. No problems at any point.

Moronically simple.

Am now anxiously awaiting the Samsung 6x Blu-Ray burner for $399. (Or Sony??? We Love You... give us the goods... at prices we can afford... like the competition???)

Then life will be perfect.

v
alk3997 wrote on 11/26/2007, 4:42 PM
Actually the O/S is 32-bit Windows XP.

I just tried a DVD-R with the same error reported by the BD-10A. Too bad I don't know anyone nearby with a different Blu-Ray model. Unlike DVD players after a year of sales, it doesn't seem like a lot of people have Blu-Ray (or HD-DVD) players.

I'm trying to use the MPEG4 codec to see if that makes any difference (was using 1920x1080i, 60Hz MPEG2 before).

Andy
JJKizak wrote on 11/26/2007, 4:43 PM
Sony's new Sata one at B & H Photo for $599.00. (BWU-200S) This is supposedly a Panasonic relabel.
JJK
alk3997 wrote on 11/26/2007, 4:48 PM
Only thing that stopped me from buying the 200S is that LG is advertising a 6x burner for $200 less than the Sony. Best Buy shows it online as "coming soon".

Andy
alk3997 wrote on 11/26/2007, 5:05 PM
I just found my answer as to why this doesn't work. Basically the BD-10A (and BD-10) don't support BDMV on DVD-R (or DVD+R). Vegas produces BDMV discs.

The good news is that the post said that the BD-10A will read BDMV on BD-R or BD-RE discs.

I guess that Blu-Ray burner is looking better and better.

Andy
4eyes wrote on 11/26/2007, 6:27 PM
If it helps I've been making the Blu-Ray AVCHD disc with menus/titles.
The discs I've made also played in the new panasonic blu-ray player. I think it was the BD-10A.
Yes, with blu-ray there are 2 specs:
BDMV Disk ( A Blu-Ray Disk ), ( mpeg2 /avchd/v1 )
AVCHD Disk ( Blu-Ray Disk Format in avc/h264 on dvd) ( avc/h264 )

HD-DVD is the same. Except reverse.
I've found with HD-DVD you can put mpeg2 on dvd's in the hd-dvd format.
But avc/h264 for HD-DVD needs to be burnt to a HD-DVD.
So HD-DVD using a HD-DVD is ( mpeg2/avc-h264 for hd-dvd/V1 )
DVD's burnt with hd-dvd folders use mpeg2.