Subject:Multi-tracking delay

Posted by: Batman1251

Date:8/17/2007 5:20:37 PM

I have acid music studio. when i plug my guitar into the computer there is no delay and playback of the first track is fine. when i record a second track while listening to the first, the second is delayed and is not in time with the first.
any ideas?

Subject:RE: Multi-tracking delay

Reply by: Kennymusicman

Date:8/17/2007 5:36:00 PM

Is your first track played along to any other tracks (ie drums etc) - my initial thoughts are latency is rearing it's head...

Subject:RE: Multi-tracking delay

Reply by: pwppch

Date:8/17/2007 5:44:22 PM

Please fill out your system specs in your user profile.

Peter

Subject:RE: Multi-tracking delay

Reply by: mobiledjs.com

Date:8/18/2007 6:19:00 AM

There should be a latency setting for recording in the system preferences. Try this and see if it helps. If you are going through effects processors this will also introduce delays. Try recording the raw signal first then running that through the effects last (e.g. Guitar Rig, etc). You should also follow basic computer latency optimization methods.

I would recommend using software such as Ableton Live if you are looking to "dub" over a previous recording easier on the fly. I do not really make much use of the recording options in Acid. If you wish to stay with Sony Products then Sound Forge is also a good program for recording. They have added some new features in version 9. This way you could edit the raw waveform rather than looking to get the perfect take. However, Ableton Live's warping and time stretching features are much better and easier to work with. This means you don't have to play through everything perfectly or spend a lot of time editing audio. Once you have your base material you can always pull it back into Acid. Sound Forge will also give you the ability to make acidized clips.

Subject:RE: Multi-tracking delay

Reply by: pwppch

Date:8/20/2007 6:41:25 AM

While I appreciate your workflow, I don't agree with it at all.

There is no need to use Live if you are recording, and this can be a really bad workflow. ACID is more than capable of handling the recording task the original poster is asking about. It is about configuration. Live is not "easier" by any stretch of the imagination.

While Sound Forge is an exellent tool for recording, it is NOT about recording takes against existing material. In fact it does not support this.

I also disagree that Abelton has better time stretch - but that is subjective. However, why get another tool when ACID is as good as - if not better - than Live in many regards.

Peter

Subject:RE: Multi-tracking delay

Reply by: Iacobus

Date:8/20/2007 9:30:09 AM

Adding to what Peter said, from my (mercifully) short time with Live, Live has its own stretching algorithm (unless something's changed last I checked).

That means if you ever want to use a loop that was created in Live in ACID, you're going to have to start all over again.

I don't have any problems recording guitar over/with existing material in ACID Pro. There has to be a hardware or software problem somewhere.

Iacobus

Subject:RE: Multi-tracking delay

Reply by: Batman1251

Date:8/20/2007 4:28:10 PM

My first track was not played along to anything and went straight from my guitar to the computer, and i dont know what latency is im new to recordin an anything it envolves.

Subject:RE: Multi-tracking delay

Reply by: bgc

Date:8/21/2007 2:13:19 PM

Do you have any plugins inserted on the Master buss?
I can reliably introduce significant recording latency with Acid 6 by adding a UAD-1 VST plugin on the master buss.
It adds approximately 150 msec of latency.

If I remove the UAD-1 plugin from the master buss the latency goes away.

My work around is to disable all UAD-1 master buss plugins while recording and then reactivate following recording.
Brett

Subject:RE: Multi-tracking delay

Reply by: PeterWright

Date:8/22/2007 1:44:20 AM

Batman - which audio card are you using?

To minimise latency (the gap between listening to existing tracks and playing live) you need a good card and ASIO drivers.

Subject:RE: Multi-tracking delay

Reply by: JohnnyRoy

Date:8/23/2007 8:12:31 PM

> you need a good card and ASIO drivers.

Yup. If you are using an audio device without ASIO drivers then you've found you latency problem. You will never be happy with the latency unless you use ASIO. Please full out your system specs in your profile so we can hep you better. Without knowing your hardware, we really can get much further.

~jr