Subject:why?

Posted by: gjn

Date:7/29/2007 11:15:11 AM

why I do not have "" Vocal Eraser to soundforge pro?

Subject:RE: why?

Reply by: ForumAdmin

Date:7/31/2007 8:28:57 AM

Vocal Eraser was only included with Sound Forge Audio Studio 9.0. If you happen to have Audio Studio 9.0 installed, it will also show up Pro.

J.

Subject:RE: why?

Reply by: garrigus

Date:7/31/2007 12:02:00 PM

You don't need a specific tool for this... you can use some of the existing functions in SF. Check out the following articles:

* Eliminating the Lead Vocal

* Extracting the Lead Vocal

You can also find more articles and tips at:
DigiFreq Music Technology Newsletter

Scott

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Subject:RE: why?

Reply by: Geoff_Wood

Date:7/31/2007 8:54:51 PM

You can also use the freebie plugin on www.analogx.com

geoff

Subject:RE: why?

Reply by: ScarKord

Date:8/1/2007 1:32:24 AM

It does seem a bit strange that the basic version of Sound Forge has plugins that the Pro version doesn't. Even if there are workarounds, the quality of izotope plugins are generally excellent so it would be good for this plugin to be included for Pro users.

Subject:RE: why?

Reply by: gjn

Date:8/1/2007 4:04:46 AM

Thank you ScarKord .
me too.
i"m schocking

Subject:RE: why?

Reply by: gjn

Date:8/1/2007 4:04:51 AM

Thank you ScarKord .
me too.
i"m schocking

Subject:RE: why?

Reply by: BradlyMusic

Date:8/1/2007 9:49:51 AM

The Pro version has the channel converter. Within the Channel converter there is a "Vocal Cut" preset. It's probably the same thing as the vocal eraser since they all work in a similar manor. One is just called "Vocal Erasure", since it's kind of a dumbed down version for users that are not so in tune with how the process works within a channel converter. So it is in the Pro version, it's just called something different and under a different process.

It's really nothing to be shocked about that the Pro version, would do it in a manor that most audio professionals understand and the consumer version makes it an easier simpler process without all the additional tweaking adjustment found in the Pro version.

Subject:RE: why?

Reply by: bnjenter

Date:8/1/2007 11:13:25 AM

I agree the capability is in SF9. It was in 8 as well, and I don't remember any farther back as that's the only other version currently installed on my machine. I think the problem is the one in Audio Studio is advertised as coming from Izotope, and that makes some of us feel we aren't getting something that should be a no brainer for inclusion in the Pro package. Wouldn't it be nice to feel like Sony is concerned about how its customers feel about what they are getting.

No argument, SF9 is a great product, though it's beginning to feel like the promised update is delayed a little tooooooo long, but don't you get the felling with each new release that nobody that's sitting on the throne at Sony gives a s*** about the customers reaction to the product.

Am I shocked about the fact they haven't included the Isotope plugin in SF9. No not really. Will it make a difference in how I use the product? No, vocal removers are a joke anyway. Does that mean I don't care what has been left out, or removed from a product? NOT EVEN A LITTLE BIT. No tirade - just an ongoing observation.

Bob

Subject:RE: why?

Reply by: gjn

Date:8/1/2007 1:04:48 PM

just to notice that the version pro is less complete on certain function

Subject:RE: why?

Reply by: MyST

Date:8/2/2007 7:35:44 AM

" No, vocal removers are a joke anyway."

To me that's a good indication that you wouldn't want that in a Pro level app, no?

Subject:RE: why?

Reply by: bnjenter

Date:8/2/2007 7:55:24 AM

Myst - You have a good point, but they do include the vocal remover in the Channel Converter. It think it's more a feeling that an obviously much more limited, and less costly, program includes a plugin that Sony obviously paid for . Shouldn't the Pro program get at least everything the more limited program includes - and more.

Like I say - production wise this really doesn't effect most of us. I'm just adding my two cents to the discussion.

Be well!

Bob

Subject:RE: why?

Reply by: BradlyMusic

Date:8/2/2007 8:15:50 AM

"just to notice that the version pro is less complete on certain function"

Yeah, I guess you're right. They should have dumbed down the vocal remover in the Pro version also. They probably should have taken it one step further in the Pro version also, and make it a big huge button named Vocal Eraser on the front of the GUI.

But instead they put it as a preset in the Channel converter tool where only a pro would know where to look for it. Geez...what where they thinking?

Subject:RE: why?

Reply by: MyST

Date:8/2/2007 8:32:50 AM

"just to notice that the version pro is less complete on certain function"


No... I seriously don't think so.

Just because Sony has (wisely) seen fit to give the hobbyist a one-button-solution for the vocal removal tool doesn't mean that it is a more complete solution.

Vocal removal is still a joke for any Pro (see FAQ #6), but I'm guessing Sony has the preset in SF for the hobbyist moving to the Pro level app.

Subject:RE: why?

Reply by: drbam

Date:8/2/2007 8:48:11 AM

"Vocal removal is still a joke for any Pro (see FAQ #6), but I'm guessing Sony has the preset in SF for the hobbyist moving to the Pro level app."

I totally agree. Personally I would be suspect and wary of any so called professional app that included a "vocal removal" feature in their marketing literature.