Subject:playback without the curser jumping around

Posted by: interluder

Date:5/30/2007 6:02:05 PM

How do I 'click through' audio while it's playing back without the curser jumping to where my last click is? In other words, I want the audio to playback normally while I click the curser anywhere I want without it moving to that place.

used to be when I had the 'loop playback' turned off it would allow me to do this in version 8 but no luck in the new version 9.

Subject:RE: playback without the curser jumping around

Reply by: timo75

Date:5/31/2007 2:45:54 AM

That has been removed, but will considered to be an option in a future update. Hope so!

See also:
http://www.sonycreativesoftware.com/forums/ShowMessage.asp?MessageID=520644&Replies=13

Timo

Subject:RE: playback without the curser jumping aroun

Reply by: ForumAdmin

Date:5/31/2007 8:01:47 AM

This will be addressed in the next update.

J.

Subject:RE: playback without the curser jumping aroun

Reply by: interluder

Date:5/31/2007 11:40:42 AM

Dang! I hope they resolve this issue soon. I will continue to use version 8 until then since it's much easier to navigate.

Subject:RE: playback without the curser jumping aroun

Reply by: drew_

Date:5/31/2007 10:14:16 PM

Hmm.. So would this perhaps explain why I can't use shift & arrow keys to trim a loop selection while audio is playing in SF9?

This is all so frustrating - I've already been in another thread trying to work out why in SF9 clicking the waveform with the mouse while playing changes the playback position, rather than just moving the edit cursor - after years of SF doing it differently.

Version 9 may have some great new features but it feels like it was coded by someone who hasn't worked with Sound Forge every day in their professional life since the last century, like some of us have.

It's as if someone guessed we didn't actually use those features and maybe hoped we wouldn't notice.

It would have been logical to make this new behavior switchable from the very outset.

It would also be courteous to extend the upgrade offer (which runs out today) until such time as the new version actually feels like a step up, rather than editing with different software.

I guess that's not planned but would have been a decent gesture for the sake of those of us who've had a longer relationship with Sound Forge than Sony has.

Subject:RE: playback without the curser jumping aroun

Reply by: timo75

Date:6/1/2007 1:37:10 AM

drew, I feel so much with you.

There are so many threads in this forum like "in SF8 I could do sth. like xxx and this isn't possible any more in SF9". One step forward, two backwards. Not an update, more a downdate with some different features.

I am back on SF8 for most applications now, because so many workflow features have been removed or changed in a way, working isn't efficient any more. I think, similar to you, the developers had to put their main focus more on marketing things than on handy workflow tools. What a shame.

For me, there won't be a SF10-Upgrade if they don't hear us. But what's a big company like Sony interested in a single small user like me?

Subject:RE: playback without the curser jumping aroun

Reply by: Lawrence_S

Date:6/12/2007 9:22:53 PM

Do you have an idea when the next update will come? Until then I'll have to come back to Sound Forge 8. For the large amount of voice over audio data I usually work it is IMPOSSIBLE to use Sound Forge 9. I'm really frustrated and upset.

Subject:RE: playback without the curser jumping aroun

Reply by: jeffjams

Date:6/14/2007 5:12:54 PM

Well, if misery loves company, Sony seems to have generated a lot of company with SF9.

I'd just like to add, if they're trying to make it look and behave more like Vegas (I wish they wouldn't), then how 'bout true multitrack editing where you can slide clips around a bit. Perhaps bring back in a bundled version of Vegas LE, especially for newcomers who don't need all the video capabilities found in a full-blown version of Vegas.

Subject:RE: playback without the curser jumping aroun

Reply by: Lawrence_S

Date:6/19/2007 11:09:16 PM

A SONY support member told me that if you click in the small gray area above the time ruler you will be able to position the edit cursor in different places. But THIS IS NOT a solution because sometimes it is necessary to make selections with the edit cursor while the file is playing back. Besides that, THE DATA WINDOW IS MUCH LARGER AND EASY TO VISUALIZE WHERE YOU ARE PUTING THE EDIT CURSOR.

You don't have the same precision clicking on the small gray area above the data window. It sounds like a trick, a bad taste joke.

Hasta la vista, SF9. I'll be back to SF8

Subject:RE: playback without the curser jumping aroun

Reply by: timo75

Date:6/21/2007 1:39:40 AM

Another proof for the thesis that they don't really use their own software anymore. This is a typicall ignorant response, I also got from the support when I reported the not-centered-marker issue. It's always like "but you can do what you want, look" without seeing that it just isn't the same and by far not as handy as before anymore. Too sad.

Subject:RE: playback without the curser jumping aroun

Reply by: ForumAdmin

Date:6/21/2007 8:46:37 AM

As I've mentioned in this very thread and several similar ones, this issue will be addressed in the next update.

Ignorantly,
J.

Subject:RE: playback without the curser jumping aroun

Reply by: timo75

Date:6/21/2007 3:36:48 PM

J.,

I did not mean directly you when I said "ignorant". I had a long support thread running (not in the forum) about my biggest problem with SF9, the thing that markers aren't centered on screen after pressing ctrl+left/right.

I could send them animated gifs, test files, hundered different descriptions, just to get always the same answer: "I can do that here, just press up-arrow after selecting a marker, and it then will be centered on screen". The point is, the whole workflow does not work at all like that, I need the marker being centered just at the same time when I select it. Like in SF8... I felt treated very very ignorantly by support, I think you can understand that.

And I felt remembered very strongly about that when Lawrence_S told about his experience with support.

As you can see in the other cursor seek thread, I mentioned already that we all should calm down about _this_ issue, as you already told us that it will be fixed.

I don't want to be a ranter. But as I feel that many users here with similar problems - something from SF8 doesn't work anymore in SF9 - are simply ignored (at least, it looks like), I forgot a bit myself and perhaps loosed my head. You see, it is all very emotional, it isn't 'just software', it is my one of the most beloved softwares I pocess. And I'm feeling a bit like loosing it...

Subject:RE: playback without the curser jumping aroun

Reply by: RickZ

Date:6/22/2007 2:28:47 PM

Sorry to buck the trend in this thread, but I find the new cursor, and playback operation WAY better than old way. I like to finish editing a piece, then go back to beginning, hit space bar, listen a bit, hit tab and the cursor and playback jump ahead, lovely. Old way, you had to click the cursor, hit spacebar twice.

My only reason for jumping into this is to request that the promised Fix please include a Preferences parameter, to allow current SF9 behavior, don't just go back to old way.

Thanks and regards,
Rick Z