Subject:Major SF 9.0a bugs

Posted by: ctznkne

Date:5/10/2007 9:59:17 AM

PROBLEM 1: I record, then stop, and the screen is blank, with just the center line visible.

If I hit PLAY, I do hear the file, but cannot see the waveform. If I DO play at this point, though, half the time the program freezes.

However, if I SAVE, or apply a filter, or process it in any way, the waveform suddenly appears.

I could live with that, but about 1out of 5 times, as soon as I start cutting, the whole thing freezes up, and I must restart, recover fragment and start over.

PROBLEM 1a: Twice when this has happened, however, the file is just completely GONE... no frg to recover, nothing. No trace I ever recorded anything...and that has NEVER happened before, with any version of SF I have used.

...and THAT I cannnot live with. I can only imagine trying to explain to National Geographic or Disney that I just "lost" an entire show narration or a Movie Trailer session.

PROBLEM 2: I go to SAVE file as, and hit the letter "M", say... In older version, it would jump to the first file format starting with "M"... but now it jumps to the "w" series.

COMPLAINT / SUGGESTION #1: In some earlier versions, there was an AWESOME feature that has since diasappeared... There was a "SEND" function that would allow you to email a file directly from SF... Why did that go away?

COMPLAINT / SUGGESTION #2: Needing SF is the one and ONLY reason I am not on a Mac. When are you going to release a Mac OS version? Most of the planet edits pro audio on Macs, but there is nothing for Mac comparable to the simplicity of SF.

I love SF, but am looking almost daily for a Mac-compatible replacement. It's only a matter of time...

Subject:RE: Major SF 9.0a bugs

Reply by: Geoff_Wood

Date:5/10/2007 4:57:32 PM

Problem 1 - no probs on mine.

Problem 2 - SF for me always comes up with keyboard input focus to the filename dialogue. It always comes up with 'last used' file type. When in the file type dialogue, hitting M cycles thru the M filetypes, on mine.

Suggestion 1 - Yes, the File | Send to ... is missing in SF8 for me too.


Suggestion2 - I can think of many more reasons than just SF to prefer Wintel than Mac, but you seem to have been well sucked-in by the Apple=creative myth, or perhaps require some MacApp that does something that no Wintel apps does so well. As you like....


geoff

Subject:RE: Major SF 9.0a bugs

Reply by: Chienworks

Date:5/10/2007 6:16:27 PM

Personally, i know about 30 people who edit audio professionally. Only one of them uses a Mac. When i showed him Vegas & Sound Forge he was so impressed that he started considering a Windows machine instead. He said it beat the pants off of ProTools for speed and ease of use. He showed me a few of the painful gyrations he has to go through to get even simple things done in ProTools and it would have been laughable if it wasn't so sad.

"What? you can just drag anything to the timeline? You can mix different file formats? You can trim on the timeline? You can crossfade just by overlapping?"

Just some of the comments made by a professional ProTools user within the first 30 seconds of watching me edit in Vegas.

Subject:RE: Major SF 9.0a bugs

Reply by: timo75

Date:5/11/2007 3:17:08 AM

ProTools isn't Mac only... so comparing PT and Vegas is no comparsion between Macs and PCs...

I'm mainly on Mac because of LogicPro, and have my PC only for SF. I would appreciate SF on Mac, but I think that is a wish that never comes true (like LogicPro will never come back to PC....)

Subject:RE: Major SF 9.0a bugs

Reply by: Angels

Date:5/11/2007 5:52:00 AM

I've succesfully run SoundForge 8 using Parallels in MacOSX and it worked just fine. But you need an Intel Mac to do that because of the virtualization tech it uses.

There's also Crossover, which in theory allows a PC program to run within OSX perceived to the user as a native app (without having to run a PC OS), but I haven't tried it.

Subject:RE: Major SF 9.0a bugs

Reply by: ctznkne

Date:5/11/2007 11:24:07 AM

I've been 'well sucked in by the Apple Creative Myth'?

I have used over a dozen top-of-the-line PCs in the last 20 years, and currently am running 4 PCs and 6 Intel-based Macs...

Perhaps it's just my particular experience, but I can tell you firsthand, there is NO comparison in terms of stability, speed, maintenance demands, etc...

When it comes to Video and Audio production/post production, the Macs kick the PCs asses.

And my personal machine is a pretty rockin' PC - but ONLY because I need SF, which, I agree, is the very BEST for what I do.

Myth? Ask my Brother, a Disney AVID editor, whose entire editorial department has seen their state-of-the-art AVIDs switched from Mac to PC platform, to save a few bucks on hardware. He says editors have actually QUIT, rather than keep dealing with the abysmal performance and crashing of the new PC-based AVIDS.

I couldn't possibly care less who makes my machine... I just want it to work, with the software I need. But if SONY came out with an OSx version, I'd go Mac the next day.

Subject:RE: Major SF 9.0a bugs

Reply by: ctznkne

Date:5/11/2007 11:29:53 AM

Hey, I'm a SF fan, make no mistake... And you're right, every time I show a ProTools maniac what I can do on SF, it leaves them with their mouths hanging open.

But I was in LA for the last 20 years, and the vast majority of the Audio and Video editors there are on Mac.

I have used over a dozen top-of-the-line PCs in the last 20 years, and currently am running 4 PCs and 6 Intel-based Macs...

Perhaps it's just my particular experience, but I can tell you firsthand, there is NO comparison in terms of stability, speed, maintenance demands, etc...

When it comes to Video and Audio production/post production, the Macs kick the PCs asses.

And my personal machine STILL is a pretty rockin' PC - but ONLY because I need SF, which, I agree, is the very BEST for what I do.

But my Brother, a Disney AVID editor, has seen his entire editorial department switch from Mac to PC platform, to save a few bucks on hardware. He says editors have actually QUIT, rather than keep dealing with the abysmal performance and crashing of the new PC-based AVIDS.

I couldn't possibly care less who makes my machine... I just want it to work, with the software I need. But if SONY came out with an OSx version, I'd go Mac the next day.

Subject:RE: Major SF 9.0a bugs

Reply by: ctznkne

Date:5/11/2007 11:36:14 AM

I have asked on several forums, and Tech Support at both "Parallels" & Apple... You are the first one I've found who is using this configuration. Thanks for the the thumbs up. I'll give it a try.