Subject:Default audio fade types?

Posted by: drbam

Date:5/2/2007 8:50:16 AM

For the first time since Acid 1, I'm attempting to do a complete project in Acid, including all editing, etc. Previously I've moved everthing to Vegas for editing and mixing. But I can't figure out how to set a specific default audio fade type? AP6 doesn't appear to have the option to do this (as in Vegas, options>preferences>editing>audio fade types) and I couldn't find it in the manual. Not being able to choose "linear" as my default is really slowing down my workflow. Thanks!

Subject:RE: Default audio fade types?

Reply by: Iacobus

Date:5/2/2007 12:40:48 PM

Mmm...I don't believe it's in there. Looks like another one for the wish list. :)

Iacobus

Subject:RE: Default audio fade types?

Reply by: drbam

Date:5/2/2007 1:05:48 PM

Well to say I'm disappointed is an understatement! Disgusted is more accurate! How another basic, yet simple feature could have been omitted is simply jaw-dropping, especially when Sony is touting AP6 to be a full DAW and is trying to get the disgruntled Vegas audio users to make the move to Acid. The AP "wish list" is long enough now to look like a short novel. Makes me want to take another look at Reaper and unfortunately this project I was hoping to finish in Acid will definitely require moving into Vegas.

Subject:RE: Default audio fade types?

Reply by: Iacobus

Date:5/2/2007 1:25:08 PM

Having different quick fade types is something relatively new to ACID, as is the full-on DAW feature.

Crossfades almost didn't make it in ACID because they had difficulty in getting it to work properly. But they got it.

Personally, I still haven't figured out why anyone would use Vegas strictly for audio (unless we're talking mixing duties and, before ACID Pro 6 came out, multitracking).

(But, then again, I'm not too picky when it comes to quick fade types not being the right type either.)

Subject:RE: Default audio fade types?

Reply by: drbam

Date:5/2/2007 5:29:41 PM

The mixing and editing power of Vegas makes Acid 6 seem clunky by comparison and I'm being generous with that comment. I'm sure you're aware of the audio origins of Vegas so I won't bring that ugly drama to the table again here.

Unlike you, mD, I am picky about the fade types or I wouldn't have brought it up. Its an important factor in my workflow that has taken years to develop. I feel resentful when I'm required to change it (when its not an improvement) because some developer dropped the ball or was too lazy or were trying to get AP6 out on time or just decided to let us put it on the ever growing "wish list." My conspiracy theory is that Sony would just as soon have all the old Vegas audio folks go elsewhere because as a group, we tend to rock the boat. Most have gone to other apps for multitrack audio but there's a few of us die-hards (I would bet no more than a dozen) who's stayed around and keep holding out hope that we'll finally get the app we've been requesting for so many years. Anyone who's observed Reaper's development knows what is possible given the will and motivation.

Peace and all that . . .

Subject:RE: Default audio fade types?

Reply by: Iacobus

Date:5/3/2007 10:26:08 AM

When I jumped onboard back when ACID Pro 2 was around, I know that there were two versions of Vegas; one for video and one for audio.

Eventually, they consolidated the two into one. I'm not sure how Vegas Audio users felt shafted since I don't use Vegas, so I can't speak from that department.

What I do know is that ACID is leaps and bounds above what it used to be. (The multitrack feature really did take me by surprise. I was afraid of them breaking the ACID paradigm but they managed to keep everything intact while introducing everything else that was new.)

Don't get me wrong, drbam; I like having the different fade types, but having a default fade type isn't a decision-maker for me. It'd be nice, to be sure, but it's nothing I can't get around. (Maybe it's because I'm so used to hardship all these music-making years. Damn, I remember the days of basic MIDI. I never want to go back there again.) ;o)

You guys tend to rock the boat? If you guys think you're divas, you haven't seen anything. I can't remember if you were hanging out in this forum back when ACID Pro 4 and 5 were the latest apps but I would swear it was a total all-out melee sometimes. LOL

Subject:RE: Default audio fade types?

Reply by: drbam

Date:5/3/2007 12:19:30 PM

Thanks for your comments mD. I'm very aware of how far Acid has come, hence my desire to complete a full project with it for the first time ever. I've never even bothered to do any editing in Acid but I wanted to try it because of the current improvements. But I simply ran into this stupid glitch (the absence of setting a fade default) that keeps tripping me up in terms of moving smoothly through the process of editing and carving out mixes. The work-around is tedious because it mostly involves for me having to go back and re-do or recreate the fader moves with the linear fade that I mostly prefer and am used to working with. It certainly puts a damper on the creative aspect and flow of the work. I'm sure others probably prefer the current default so I most likely am part of the minority (which is where I generally find myself within the Sony world).