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Subject:SF9 Selection Bug Posted by: timo75 Date:4/18/2007 9:29:10 AM Hi, another annoying bug - at least I hope that it's not an intened feature! - in SF9. In previous versions and any other windows programs, you can select data as following: - place the cursor where you want to start with your selection - hold down the shift key - click (at any other position) and draw your selection. The selection will follow your mouse movement while button keeps pressed. This is useful, when you need to start a selection at an exact position (you zoom in and place the cursor on that position) and have to select a larger amount of data (you zoom out enough, press shift, click and draw your selection). Not so possible in SF9. A selection is drawn, but it does not follow the mouse movements while keeping the mouse button pressed. The selction remains on the first click's position -> absolutly unnecessary, a bug, I think. Now, even worse, if you want to alter an existing selection. Every previous version of SF and any other windows program does it like this: - hold down the shift key - clicking right to the selection expands it to the right - clicking left to the selection expands it to the left - also, drawing the selection by keeping mouse butten pressed is possible. Not so in SF9. Here, a new selection is done from the cursor to the click position. A bug for shure and absolutly counter productive. Not only, because windows applications must have stringent common operation techniques, but also because it has been different in all previous versions and changing this is like inventing a new car wehre the steering is on the floor and accelerator/brake pedals on the front. Hope, that this - among lots of other insane changements - will be fixed as soon as possible.
Subject:RE: SF9 Selection Bug Reply by: ForumAdmin Date:4/18/2007 11:25:19 AM The first appears to be a conflict between drag logic and the Shift key remaining depressed. I've entered it in our bug database. In the meantime, if you release both Shift and the mouse button, you should be near enough to the selection edge to just immediately grab it and drag. The second behavior regarding selection start on Shift+click is by design. It is the same as ACID and Vegas selection behavior, and is, technically, more "standard" than the former (cases in point: Windows Explorer, Word, Excel, etc.). But the utility of that "nearest-edge" behavior is not lost on me, either, so I will add a feature request to include it as an option in an update. J.
Subject:RE: SF9 Selection Bug Reply by: donaldh606 Date:4/19/2007 7:44:02 AM Could I add one comment if I might. I'm finding the "Drag & Drop auto rise delay" to be annoying. At least 3 out of 5 times I can not get it to engage to allow me to drag a selection to create a new window or copy into an existing window. I have it set to the lowest setting and still there are many times that when I click to drag the audio selection it reacts as though I'm selecting the area again.
Subject:RE: SF9 Selection Bug Reply by: _TJ Date:4/19/2007 6:11:27 PM Begin your drag with a downward or upward motion, and it will always interpret that to mean you want to drag the selection rather than draw a new one. Or hold down the ctrl key as you start the drag. tj

Subject:SF9 Selection Bug

Posted by: timo75

Date:4/18/2007 9:29:10 AM

Hi,

another annoying bug - at least I hope that it's not an intened feature! - in SF9.

In previous versions and any other windows programs, you can select data as following:

- place the cursor where you want to start with your selection
- hold down the shift key
- click (at any other position) and draw your selection. The selection will follow your mouse movement while button keeps pressed.

This is useful, when you need to start a selection at an exact position (you zoom in and place the cursor on that position) and have to select a larger amount of data (you zoom out enough, press shift, click and draw your selection).

Not so possible in SF9. A selection is drawn, but it does not follow the mouse movements while keeping the mouse button pressed. The selction remains on the first click's position -> absolutly unnecessary, a bug, I think.

Now, even worse, if you want to alter an existing selection. Every previous version of SF and any other windows program does it like this:

- hold down the shift key
- clicking right to the selection expands it to the right
- clicking left to the selection expands it to the left
- also, drawing the selection by keeping mouse butten pressed is possible.

Not so in SF9. Here, a new selection is done from the cursor to the click position. A bug for shure and absolutly counter productive.

Not only, because windows applications must have stringent common operation techniques, but also because it has been different in all previous versions and changing this is like inventing a new car wehre the steering is on the floor and accelerator/brake pedals on the front.

Hope, that this - among lots of other insane changements - will be fixed as soon as possible.

Subject:RE: SF9 Selection Bug

Reply by: ForumAdmin

Date:4/18/2007 11:25:19 AM

The first appears to be a conflict between drag logic and the Shift key remaining depressed. I've entered it in our bug database. In the meantime, if you release both Shift and the mouse button, you should be near enough to the selection edge to just immediately grab it and drag.

The second behavior regarding selection start on Shift+click is by design. It is the same as ACID and Vegas selection behavior, and is, technically, more "standard" than the former (cases in point: Windows Explorer, Word, Excel, etc.).

But the utility of that "nearest-edge" behavior is not lost on me, either, so I will add a feature request to include it as an option in an update.

J.

Subject:RE: SF9 Selection Bug

Reply by: donaldh606

Date:4/19/2007 7:44:02 AM

Could I add one comment if I might. I'm finding the "Drag & Drop auto rise delay" to be annoying. At least 3 out of 5 times I can not get it to engage to allow me to drag a selection to create a new window or copy into an existing window. I have it set to the lowest setting and still there are many times that when I click to drag the audio selection it reacts as though I'm selecting the area again.

Subject:RE: SF9 Selection Bug

Reply by: _TJ

Date:4/19/2007 6:11:27 PM

Begin your drag with a downward or upward motion, and it will always interpret that to mean you want to drag the selection rather than draw a new one.

Or hold down the ctrl key as you start the drag.

tj