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Randy

yas thank you I tried the old SM web site which obviously linked to Adobe then looked aroung the Adobe site, but evidentlt not good enough.Thanks again, there good to have to brush up on when you dont use ultra for awhile.

OnLocation apparently will not be sold as a stand alone product. It will only come with Premiere Pro. Which sucks for those of us who don't want to get PP just for DV Rack upgrades.

adobe's effectively killing off Ultra and DV Rack as standalone apps, forcing everyone to pay $1700+ or whatever they want for CS3... not very friendly to former SM customers, and a real loss to the software dev community..

I'd be mad as heck if I was an original SM programmer who built the company up, now to see adobe kill off and "assimilate" my apps into bloated package combos..


ken

now to see adobe kill off and "assimilate" my apps into bloated package combos..

Good observation, Ken. Adobe's mindset is that of the Borg, "resistence is futile."

Let me see, USD 1,700 get you PS, AE, Ultra and DV/HDV Rack, sounds pretty good to me. Just throw PPro in the bin. Mind you if it came with InDesign for the same money it'd be really sweet.

Aside from that though, how it would it be to spruce of Vegas's capture utilities to add the same scopes as Rack?

The code is already there I think, could be even better than DV Rack which was a tad problematic when it came to long captures.

BTW for anyone ever involved in being taken over, do have a clause written into the contract like someone I know did. The guys buying him out failed to honour the "look after my staff and clients" bit and it cost them $1M, at least he got to laugh all the way to the bank.

There's a good reason for doing this, what goes around comes around. Those old clients can have long memories and they talk. Being the guy that sold them up the river last time makes it hard to build another business.

Bob.

Bob.

Again, Adobe has not killed off DVRack and Ultra. They acquired it and included it with their programs to increase value for their customers. I am starting to think that the only problem people really have is that it is Adobe who owns these programs now. Would you be singing the same tune if it were say Sony who had acquired SM and bundled DVRack with Vegas? Probably not since you own that NLE and the benefit would be to you.

So the way I see it, you have three options. One, buy Adobe bundles so you can continue to use programs you have become accsutomed to using and accept that this is just way business runs these days. Two, dont buy adobe bundles, and go back to long capture times, or three, wait for someone else to come up with an alternative. I think the last option is not going to happen because it it were so simple, I think we would have already seen more programs out there that can do these same types of things.

I have said many times before, be angry at Sony. They had this opportunity to do the same thing.

http://www.sonycreativesoftware.com/forums/ShowMessage.asp?ForumID=4&MessageID=380082

http://www.sonycreativesoftware.com/forums/ShowMessage.asp?ForumID=4&MessageID=377124


Those are just two of the threads suggesting Sony do the same things and these were two years ago. One has to really assume that the buyers for DVRack and Ultra were drying up quickly seeing how SM was acquired rather quickly.

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