How to patch mixer for multitracking ... -ACID Product Family

Subject:How to patch mixer for multitracking ... Posted by: PeterWright Date:3/10/2007 8:26:00 PM Even though I've done this before, it was more by luck than knowledge .... I'm trying to record some multitrack audio, one track at a time. I am using a Behringer 1204 mixer connected to a MAudio Quattro USB sound card with my Vaio Laptop and Acid Pro 6.0 OK I record one track ok - now I want to add a harmony track. I can hear the first track in my headphones, but when I arm the second track to record, the sound of the first track is also being heard in the second track. I want to hear Track 1 for synching, but I don't want it recorded on Track 2 too! Basic connections so far: Behringer Control Room Out > Quattro Ch.1 IN Quattro Ch.1 OUT > Behringer Tape input. I would appreciate any help on getting this routing correct. EDIT: By trial and error I seem to have come up with a solution as below, but I would still like to hear if this the "best" or "normal" way of achieving this. I re-routed the lead to Quattro Ch1 IN so it now comes from Aux Send 1 on the Behringer The Quattro Ch.1 OUT now goes to Aux Return 2. The Mic Channel on the mixer sends to Aux 1. Message last edited on3/10/2007 9:14:04 PM byPeterWright.
Subject:RE: How to patch mixer for multitracking ... Reply by: JohnnyRoy Date:3/11/2007 6:59:52 AM Are you using the ASIO drivers on the Quattro USB? It sounds like you may be using the Microsoft Sound Mapper which is why everything is being recorded together. Go to Options > Preferences > Audio Device and make sure the ASIO drivers are selected under Audio device type:. Then when you ARM a track for recording, click on the input button to the left of the ARM button and select only the input you want to record from (you should see 4 mono inputs to choose from for the Quattro). Now when you record, there should be nothing but that one input in your recording. ~jr
Subject:RE: How to patch mixer for multitracking ... Reply by: PeterWright Date:3/11/2007 7:48:11 AM Thanks Johnny - yes I'm definitely using the Quattro ASIO drivers, and I'm selecting mono channel 1 as input, but the problem is that the way I had the mixer set up was somehow feeding the already recorded channel into the mix as well as to the headphones. As I said, I've now, by trial and error, come up with a solution, but this may not necessarily be the "kosher" way of setting things up - it may be, but I'm trying to educate myself properly. There are so many ports and push buttons on the mixer - sometimes I suddenly hear an echo I wasn't expecting, and I've read the manual right through and confused myself more .... Anyway, it's fantastic to be able to produce good quality music at my home/studio, with audio, midi and even the occasional Acid loops... I used Logic Audio for several years, but was always hoping that Sonic Foundry/Sony would come up with a DAW, and Acid is already very good, hopefully soon to become GREAT!! Message last edited on3/11/2007 7:48:53 AM byPeterWright.
Subject:RE: How to patch mixer for multitracking ... Reply by: MacMoney Date:3/11/2007 9:41:29 AM >I used Logic Audio for several years, but was always hoping that Sonic Foundry/Sony would come up with a DAW, and Acid is already very good, hopefully soon to become GREAT!! Same here Peter! George Ware

Subject:How to patch mixer for multitracking ...

Posted by: PeterWright

Date:3/10/2007 8:26:00 PM

Even though I've done this before, it was more by luck than knowledge ....

I'm trying to record some multitrack audio, one track at a time.

I am using a Behringer 1204 mixer connected to a MAudio Quattro USB sound card with my Vaio Laptop and Acid Pro 6.0

OK I record one track ok - now I want to add a harmony track.

I can hear the first track in my headphones, but when I arm the second track to record, the sound of the first track is also being heard in the second track. I want to hear Track 1 for synching, but I don't want it recorded on Track 2 too!

Basic connections so far:

Behringer Control Room Out > Quattro Ch.1 IN
Quattro Ch.1 OUT > Behringer Tape input.

I would appreciate any help on getting this routing correct.

EDIT: By trial and error I seem to have come up with a solution as below, but I would still like to hear if this the "best" or "normal" way of achieving this.

I re-routed the lead to Quattro Ch1 IN so it now comes from Aux Send 1 on the Behringer
The Quattro Ch.1 OUT now goes to Aux Return 2.

The Mic Channel on the mixer sends to Aux 1.

Message last edited on3/10/2007 9:14:04 PM byPeterWright.

Subject:RE: How to patch mixer for multitracking ...

Reply by: JohnnyRoy

Date:3/11/2007 6:59:52 AM

Are you using the ASIO drivers on the Quattro USB? It sounds like you may be using the Microsoft Sound Mapper which is why everything is being recorded together. Go to Options > Preferences > Audio Device and make sure the ASIO drivers are selected under Audio device type:. Then when you ARM a track for recording, click on the input button to the left of the ARM button and select only the input you want to record from (you should see 4 mono inputs to choose from for the Quattro). Now when you record, there should be nothing but that one input in your recording.

~jr

Subject:RE: How to patch mixer for multitracking ...

Reply by: PeterWright

Date:3/11/2007 7:48:11 AM

Thanks Johnny - yes I'm definitely using the Quattro ASIO drivers, and I'm selecting mono channel 1 as input, but the problem is that the way I had the mixer set up was somehow feeding the already recorded channel into the mix as well as to the headphones.

As I said, I've now, by trial and error, come up with a solution, but this may not necessarily be the "kosher" way of setting things up - it may be, but I'm trying to educate myself properly. There are so many ports and push buttons on the mixer - sometimes I suddenly hear an echo I wasn't expecting, and I've read the manual right through and confused myself more ....

Anyway, it's fantastic to be able to produce good quality music at my home/studio, with audio, midi and even the occasional Acid loops...

I used Logic Audio for several years, but was always hoping that Sonic Foundry/Sony would come up with a DAW, and Acid is already very good, hopefully soon to become GREAT!!

Message last edited on3/11/2007 7:48:53 AM byPeterWright.

Subject:RE: How to patch mixer for multitracking ...

Reply by: MacMoney

Date:3/11/2007 9:41:29 AM

>I used Logic Audio for several years, but was always hoping that Sonic Foundry/Sony would come up with a DAW, and Acid is already very good, hopefully soon to become GREAT!!

Same here Peter!

George Ware