I am boycotting the film because they should have just paid Pierce Brosnan what is asked for. He is the definitive Bond (IMHO best once since Sean Connery). He breathed life back into the series and deserves to be paid handsomely for what he accomplished. Besides, I just can't see a blond as bond. He doesn't look the part. They should have called it the Man From U.N.C.L.E. and then I would have believed it. ;-)

~jr

I disagree, Johnny. Brosnan was good, but it had played itself out. I haven't seen Casino Royale, but most critics think Craig is the reason it's good, along with getting back to the basics.

I think Brosnan's best work is not in the Bond films, but in movies like The Matador, which was a great film.

Johnny? Have you seen Daniel Craig's work list?

I think the Bond Brand was up for something a wee bit even more gritty. Read the list and you might see what they are after. My opinion? We were sooooo starved for a more "Sean-like", nasty snarling character Brosie came near. This time, I think, you're gonna be knocked backwards.

Back to reality!

Have you ever seen a more "product-pointed" film before? Bond having everything you've ever seen in the Sony catalog and then some? I haven't seen the entire film, we saw bits of it at the V1 release event, but it was pretty impressive how much gadgetry Sony had for him to use in the film.
What parts of it I saw looked very good, so when it hits in our small region, I'll be running to see it.

Spot? You've got me beat - "product-pointed" ? What is this? Product Placement? Same thing? Yes?

I happen to be going to see it later today - It will be more interesting after reading some of the comments - I'll see if I can count the Sony and other product placements - because now of course my curiousity's tweaked!

Grazie: Advertising a product by using it as a prop.

"Grazie: Advertising a product by using it as a prop."

That is what Grazie had guessed at. Pointing takes the placement word that bit further but I wonder if this slight lack of clarity is purely another example of two nations divided by a common language.

Product placement has been a mainstay of the Bond films at least for all my life. The extra half second to a seconds worth of lag whilst a Seiko watch is being activated as a tool (and the credit line to match in case you are not sure of what your shopping list should consist of at the end of the film). I'm usually overwhelmed by the very sumptuous camera positions/motion and film maker craftmanship that continues throughout this grand series of films.

I'd wager most would also be very miffed to have turned up in time for the start of the first scene but had missed the grand title opening of any of these films.

There is something very Steve McQueen in the new Bond. Perhaps he isn't going to be as much of a draw to the women as previous Bonds or McQueen but that perhaps helps the male audience not to feel so inadequate!

It remains a good recipe and anyway I'm all for less CGI within the bulk of a movie.

Johnny, a friend of mine is a big, big Bond Geek? He just had me edit a faux-Thunderball trailer for him. He saw the film at noon the day it opened and he says it's the best Bond since Connery. Wasn't Ian Fleming Blond? or do I have that wrong?

Re: JohnnyRoy

That's EXACTLY what I thought BEFORE I saw it (except I knew Brosnan didn't want the part, but I had other choices i would of preferred), but this guy is good. very good. infact, I like him better then brosnan. :)




Yes. The first XXX. Bond wasn't near as bad. Majority of the time you only really saw the "Vio" (that how it's spelled?) laptop name. It was harder to see any other sony products. Not like "XXX." EVERY scene had "Sony" in it ~2/3 times. Seriously. And it was put purposelessly put in the middle of the frame several times in each scene. The whole "Stop acting acting police and start acting play station" didn't even make ANY sense to me (acting Quake or Doom would of made a lot more sense).

But it's a damn good movie. :)

yeah...we did a few of sony's bond commercials at work...sony is definitely taking advantage of all this new bond hype to promote themselves...to bad bond doesn't use vegas ...

I think the biggest thing people are not getting with the new Bond is that it's a reboot of the series, much like Batman Begins. Brosnan was good as Bond and I loved his scenes with Judy Dench but the Bond films he was in were tiresome and lacking even decent storylines. Finally updating Bond and bringing back the grit found in the original Bond novels is very refreshing and most would agree that this kept the series from certain death.

As for product placement, I'm dealing with two films that will have their budgets paid for just by product placement and sponsors. Thats why Film and Business are two words :)

> I disagree, Johnny. Brosnan was good, but it had played itself out. I haven't seen Casino Royale, but most critics think Craig is the reason it's good, along with getting back to the basics.

> Johnny, a friend of mine is a big, big Bond Geek? He just had me edit a faux-Thunderball trailer for him. He saw the film at noon the day it opened and he says it's the best Bond since Connery.

> That's EXACTLY what I thought BEFORE I saw it (except I knew Brosnan didn't want the part, but I had other choices i would of preferred), but this guy is good. very good. infact, I like him better then brosnan. :)

Wow, just when I was getting ready to hate this film you guys have convinced me to go see it. Strictly for professional reasons of investigation of cinematic technique of course. (ok, so maybe I might even have a little fun watching it.) ;-) I didn't know Brosnan didn't want the part again. He was just so good at it.

~jr

i was talking to some other people on another forum, and, aparantly, after brosnan didn't want it anymore, he changed his mind but they already decided on his replacement. Still, IMHO, the new guy fits this part much better.

And the cinematic technique is, of course, a great reason to justify to see a movie. :D "Honey, I'm going to go see bond with the guy!" "But you promised to paint the house!" "This movie has great cinematic technique that i MUST see! It could give me soooo many ideas!" ;)

after you see it, please tell if you "felt the pain" during the torture scene like I did. :)

I went to be entertained at the movies. I had a great time at the movie. My wife had a great time at the movie. Darryl

I'll have to wait another day to see it. It was playing on 3 screens in the theatre I went to and they were all sold out by the time I got there !

I think the best Bond was not Connery or Brosnan, but Cary Grant in 'North By Northwest' :D

On a slightly more serious note, I think Brosnan had the perfect look, but lacked any measure of charisma. This guy might be the reverse.

...and now we're back to real Ian Fleming writing again, after years of ersatz writers' clumsy attempts.

Ian Fleming's bio sheds a lot of light on where his writing came from...

Rope & Chair

i did not like this one at all! it was not a bond movie.. the opening.. thats about it...
no gadgets! no cars.. the defibulator scene? in the car!? oh my gosh... CHEEZ-OOO
goldeneye.. we need another one like it!!!

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The only real Bond is Sean Connery. Period. End of story.

I must've seen Goldfinger over 70 times.
Watching "You Only Live Twice" is what got me interested in asian women
(so I married one...). My basement studio is wall-to-wall with Connery bond
movie posters. Only Connery.

Connery's the real Bond - there is no substitute.


Ken

I'm boycotting the film too but because James Bond is just to sexist for 2007. I'm glad were are getting away from CG. How CG ruined Pirates of the Caribbean II did it for me. I want to see acting.