OT: Internet Explorer 7? Anybody using it?

Grazie wrote on 11/28/2006, 12:24 AM
I got an auto update install package from MS. One part was IE7. Yeah, I said yes go ahead . . you fool !

Now it wont fire-up. It hangs. It needs me to zap it in Windows Task Manager to "kill it" AND I now can't Restore BACK to an hour ago to get IE6 back!

Should I now stay with Firefox?

Is this 'cos Billy Gates has left MS?

Grazie

Comments

ritsmer wrote on 11/28/2006, 12:41 AM
Obviously the present IE 7 should have been called version "Beta 1".
The are several Oops'es it it. The Internet is also full of stories.
I was a fool too :-) - just hitting the Yes, thank you button - and after that I was not able to do the simplest common tasks like i.e. saving a picture by right click and save.
After a couple of days of annoyance I just made a system restore to just before the IE 7 installation (BTW it makes a restore point itself called: Software Distribution Service 2.0 - which is Ok).
Grazie wrote on 11/28/2006, 12:48 AM
Thanks - Ritzy - But I can't even restore.

I have it hang. It messes with all sorts of stuff. PLUS with FFx I do get a spill chequer too! Nah! - Gatsie? Yah lost it PAL!

G
Chienworks wrote on 11/28/2006, 4:29 AM
IE? What's that? Oooooh, that thing everyone has so much trouble with. Wouldn't know m'self. Haven't used it in years. I think i remember trying version 4 or something like that. Wasn't impressed then. Feel no need to look now either.

Been using Mozilla/Netscape since grand ol' Netscape 2 was around. Always worked just fine.
ken c wrote on 11/28/2006, 5:09 AM
I installed IE7 on my wife's computer (lol) to try it out, so far it looks ok, on winxp.

Can't install it on my win2k production pc, so I'm still using Firefox as always, which is a hugely superior browser imho to IE7 anyways. Especially great is the open-source community of plugins (like session manager, fasterfox etc) at the mozilla.org site.

But, my server logs show that still, 80% of my visitors use IE (still mostly 6), and only 20% using Firefox, for some reason, so I've got to preview my pages in IE, or use the Firefox IE tab add-in, to check what pages look like, in IE, from a site dev/beta test standpoint.

Firefox is clearly a better browser. Opera is good too, though limited functionality, as it's very fast.

Ken
JJKizak wrote on 11/28/2006, 5:32 AM
I have it installed on 3 XP computers and don't seem to have any problems.

JJK
DavidPJ wrote on 11/28/2006, 5:37 AM
Grazie,

Have you tried booting in Safe Mode and restoring from there? Or, boot in safe mode and deinstall IE7?
goshep wrote on 11/28/2006, 5:39 AM
IE7? Get back from thee Devil! I rebuke you!
Laurence wrote on 11/28/2006, 6:09 AM
I installed both the new IE7 and Firefox 2. They both crash like crazy but Firefox is even worse. I'm still using it but it must crash three or four times an hour, sometimes more!
Grazie wrote on 11/28/2006, 6:37 AM
So! There we have it!

I've done a "restore point". REMIOVED IE7 from this PC. Rebooted and IE6 is back in business.

Internet Explorer 7 - ugh . . ! Gone!!

Oh, and as a footnote to this Explorer Experience - the Institute I belong to HAD installed IE7 momentarily; could NOT get to its OWN databases; recognised that there maybe a fix; but now have removed it from their server and gawn back to IE6!

I'm glad I aint being dumb. Thanks Guyz/Galz

G
Former user wrote on 11/28/2006, 7:53 AM
Some food for thought...

IE7 on Windows XP is complete waste of time in it's current state. All my testing shows it to be generally "hesitating" all the time when loading pages. It does not work at all on certain banking sites etc for me. Firefox 2.0 on the other hand is instant and totally compatible. Haven't hit a single page when it complains....

IE7 on Windows Vista RTM - is a totally opposite experience. It's a lean, mean cruising machine - but the code for the two versions is vastly different. My limited Vista experience (due to unavailable sound drivers) was incredible - and the web access with IE7 was unbelievably fast.

But after several blue screens over drivers - I pulled it until such time that I can get a clean Device Manager and have all my hardware working properly.
Former user wrote on 11/28/2006, 7:56 AM
I am using IE7 on three computers with XP2 Home with no problems. I did turn off the PHISHING feature because it was really slowing down web pages.

Dave T2
[r]Evolution wrote on 11/28/2006, 8:28 AM
FireFox!

When I tried to do the IE7 update I got a message saying that my version of Windows was Counterfit. I own 2 LEGIT copies of XP but got this message on both of my PC's so neither of them would update. When I called Microsoft... they didn't know what the problem was because they found both of my registrations.
Honestly, I don't know why I was trying to update it I only use Firefox. Even on my Mac I use Firefox... not Safari.

Anyways... long story short... Firefox!
KChuck wrote on 11/28/2006, 11:49 AM
There are a number of "Things" when it comes to IE7, not the least of which is that it currently runs best with tons of RAM on an XP (Pro & Home--not sure about MCE) SP2 system with all the recommended updates installed. That includes the "Malicious Software Removal Tool" and the "Windows Genuine Advantage"... thing.

It does add a bunch of processes which most people aren't going to be interested in (in my opinion) but they can be turned off. Unfortunately, that means you've got to turn them off instead of just turning on the features you want; rather like a shady "opt-out" scheme... but that's just my personal opinion.

In any event, I've been running IE7 without any issues whatsoever on two different machines (work desktop and personal notebook). YMDWV=Your Milage Most Definately Will Vary.
TLF wrote on 11/29/2006, 12:08 AM
Installed seamlessly for me, and works pretty well, but FireFox is still my staple browser.

A customer of mine was having problems with it after the automatic install. Every time she started it, it crashed. Wouldn't do a thing. She didn't have any other browser, so until I could fix it, she had to open Windows Explorer, and type URLs into the address bar.

Anyway, the solution in her case was to remove the Google Toolbar. Maybe it's something similar for you?

Good luck,

Worley
GenJerDan wrote on 11/29/2006, 5:01 AM
It does not work at all on certain banking sites etc for me.

Had a message pop from one of my banks that said I "could continue working, but some features might not be available" because I wasn't using the latest browser.

Looks like someone's version-checking isn't doing a good enough job. If the ver number didn't start with a 6, it must be old, right? :^)
MH_Stevens wrote on 11/29/2006, 6:06 AM
IE is great - ti's a good Firefox copy. I had a few hiccups that were all resolved on the IE7 forum. Now its working I would never go back to 6.

Grazie: Unfortuneatly if you read the small print with the IE7 offer it says something like "there's no going back" - (twilight zone music in background). The reason is to do with the way vista works with the kernel and IE7 is tailored for Vista, hence the XP problems. You may have to work at it until you get the bugs out.
JJKizak wrote on 11/29/2006, 6:52 AM
Ok, I think I found a problem. When installing US Robotics drivers for a modem with IE7 my computer jumped up in the air and did a couple of "U" turns before it hit the floor. Bam! no warnings just instant reboot after almost fully booting. Went in safe mode and blew out the US Robotics software and everything returned to normal. Also my Symantec Winfax Software doesnt work anymore. I just broke out the violin.

JJK
Grazie wrote on 11/29/2006, 6:53 AM
MH . .yeah right: "You may have to work at it until you get the bugs out."

Well sorry to disappoint you but! What I did was to uninstall IE7 restart my pc and IE6 came back!!!


"Grazie: Unfortuneatly if you read the small print with the IE7 offer it says something like "there's no going back" - (twilight zone music in background)."

Done! Back with IE6.

Chienworks wrote on 11/29/2006, 3:26 PM
"Anyway, the solution in her case was to remove the Google Toolbar. Maybe it's something similar for you?"

I do a lot of home computer servicing on the side. I can't tell you how many times lately i've completely fixed almost every problem a user has had by uninstalling browser toolbars. These days that seems to be the majority of the problem(s). It's more effective in getting someone's computer back to being usable than virus & spyware removal is.

Toolbars are just plain evil. It's astounding how badly they can make your computer run, especially if you have more than one installed.
Zion wrote on 11/29/2006, 3:43 PM
No problem here on XP Pro and XP64.

Works Great!
MH_Stevens wrote on 11/29/2006, 4:35 PM
Grazie:
SURE you can step back (and my "not going back" was in jest) but is it worth it just to avoid a few teething problems? Do you know what you get with IE7 you don't with 6? Look at this list:

Tabbed browsing
Web search from the toolbar
Reading and subscription to RSS feeds
Advanced Printing scales a printed web-page
Delete Browsing History allows you to clean up cached pages, passwords, form data, cookies, and history, all from a single window.

BUT HERE's THE BIGGIE: When you get Vista only IE7 will:

Run in isolation from other applications in the operating system. Exploits and malicious software are restricted from writing to any location beyond Temporary Internet Files.
Parental Controls and Ratings.
Support for cascading style sheets and
Rich RSS feeds platform