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Subject:Strange Crossfade behavior Posted by: nutrapuppy Date:10/20/2006 4:28:51 PM This one is hard to describe, but here goes: Insert an audio track, put a clip of audio on it. Split the audio clip. Zoom in to the split. Grab one of the two pieces and drag it over the edge of the other one, making a crossfade. So far so good. The crossfade kind of jumps into existence with seemingly no care for what careful mousework you have just done, but this is tolerable I guess. Now comes the weird part, IMHO. Move the edge of one of the pieces over so that your crossfade now disappears and you have two pieces of audio "butted up" next to each other without crossfade. One ends, the other begins. Sweet. Now grab the first piece of audio and shorten it, thus moving the edge away from the other piece. HOLY TOLEDO, A CROSSFADE APPEARS OUT OF NOWHERE!! -even though the two piece of audio were not crossfading before you moved the first piece of audio away. Is this how it is supposed to work? WHY? If you cannot make this happen, try again. It happens every time for me when I follow the above instructions.
Subject:RE: Strange Crossfade behavior Reply by: Chienworks Date:10/21/2006 12:29:41 AM Sorry, can't reproduce here. Where does the crossfade appear? You can (supposedly) only have a crossfade where two events overlap. Following your instructions you end up with two events with a gap between them. This certainly isn't an overlap. I don't know how you could possibly get a crossfade in this case. "The crossfade kind of jumps into existence with seemingly no care for what careful mousework you have just done, but this is tolerable I guess." Can you elaborate on this? I'm not sure what you're getting at. My only guess is that you might be referring to the fact that ACID is much more "grid-snappy" than Vegas is, so event drags always line up to gridlines. If you turn off snapping does this still happen?
Subject:RE: Strange Crossfade behavior Reply by: nutrapuppy Date:10/21/2006 1:00:14 PM I figured it out. When you have two parts overlapped,you are only able to shorten the crossfade, you are not able to shorten the length of the audio clip itself. In Vegas you can adjust the crossfade or shorten the file length (resulting in a shorter crossfade). It does still happen with snapping off, because the Snap is always to the end of the file itself from wherever you are working. The behavior doesn't work for me, I would rather be able to shorten the file length as I am moving the crossfade edge back. Again, it is very hard to explain. Maybe I should capture a video of it.

Subject:Strange Crossfade behavior

Posted by: nutrapuppy

Date:10/20/2006 4:28:51 PM

This one is hard to describe, but here goes:

Insert an audio track, put a clip of audio on it.
Split the audio clip.
Zoom in to the split.
Grab one of the two pieces and drag it over the edge of the other one, making a crossfade.
So far so good. The crossfade kind of jumps into existence with seemingly no care for what careful mousework you have just done, but this is tolerable I guess.

Now comes the weird part, IMHO.

Move the edge of one of the pieces over so that your crossfade now disappears and you have two pieces of audio "butted up" next to each other without crossfade.

One ends, the other begins. Sweet.

Now grab the first piece of audio and shorten it, thus moving the edge away from the other piece. HOLY TOLEDO, A CROSSFADE APPEARS OUT OF NOWHERE!!
-even though the two piece of audio were not crossfading before you moved the first piece of audio away.

Is this how it is supposed to work? WHY?

If you cannot make this happen, try again. It happens every time for me when I follow the above instructions.

Subject:RE: Strange Crossfade behavior

Reply by: Chienworks

Date:10/21/2006 12:29:41 AM

Sorry, can't reproduce here.

Where does the crossfade appear? You can (supposedly) only have a crossfade where two events overlap. Following your instructions you end up with two events with a gap between them. This certainly isn't an overlap. I don't know how you could possibly get a crossfade in this case.

"The crossfade kind of jumps into existence with seemingly no care for what careful mousework you have just done, but this is tolerable I guess."

Can you elaborate on this? I'm not sure what you're getting at. My only guess is that you might be referring to the fact that ACID is much more "grid-snappy" than Vegas is, so event drags always line up to gridlines. If you turn off snapping does this still happen?

Subject:RE: Strange Crossfade behavior

Reply by: nutrapuppy

Date:10/21/2006 1:00:14 PM

I figured it out. When you have two parts overlapped,you are only able to shorten the crossfade, you are not able to shorten the length of the audio clip itself. In Vegas you can adjust the crossfade or shorten the file length (resulting in a shorter crossfade).

It does still happen with snapping off, because the Snap is always to the end of the file itself from wherever you are working. The behavior doesn't work for me, I would rather be able to shorten the file length as I am moving the crossfade edge back.

Again, it is very hard to explain. Maybe I should capture a video of it.