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Subject:Reason 3 and ACID 6a crash
Posted by: sgx
Date:7/20/2006 6:59:22 PM
Hi, I'm finding that while I have Reason 3 rewired into ACID 6a, a lot of the time I insert a new machine in Reason, the whole system will get chunky slow and then finally stop. The mouse moves around extremely slow and I am not able to close either of the programs. I hard reboot is then needed. This happens almost every time I preview a new combi patch in the browser (multiple machines are loaded each time you do that). NOT GOOD. System: Dell Inspiron 6000 Pentium M 1.83ghz 1.5 gb ram echo indigo IO card tried both echo ASIO and ASIO4ALL drivers |
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Subject:RE: Reason 3 and ACID 6a crash
Reply by: pwppch
Date:7/20/2006 8:25:17 PM
We have discovered a number of issues/problems related to Reason and Rewire in general that have been addressed. The behavior you describe is one such issue/problem. These resolution of these issues/problems will be part of the next update to ACID 6. We are in the process of verifying and preparing the update. There is currently no date set for the release of this update. Peter |
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Subject:RE: Reason 3 and ACID 6a crash
Reply by: sgx
Date:7/21/2006 12:36:24 PM
Great. I'm glad to hear that this issue is known and being taken care of. I didn't notice this behavior in the demo, though maybe I didn't test thoroughly enough. |
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Subject:RE: Reason 3 and ACID 6a crash
Reply by: klyon
Date:7/24/2006 2:34:39 PM
No, it's just that it's intermittant and you could have missed it. I've had it quite a bit, but had times when it didn't happen. Between that and the fact that the ASIO driver for my primary sound card -- Lynx -- crashes the program, I've put ACID 6 on the back burner for the next update. (Which hasn't made me particularly happy... imagine buying a car -- or almost anything -- and having it not work, then having the manufacturer tell you this: "Yes, we know it's broken. And we have a fix. But we won't give it to you until, well, sometime in the indefinite future...") Oh well, c'est la vie. |
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Subject:RE: Reason 3 and ACID 6a crash
Reply by: sgx
Date:8/3/2006 12:55:57 PM
Yeah it sucks.... :( I'm still working on music, but I've got to avoid my ACID - Reason combo or work in Pro 5 with Reason. This bug inspired me to purchase Ableton Live which I had been on the verge of doing for a while. |
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Subject:RE: Reason 3 and ACID 6a crash
Reply by: shelteredinsound
Date:10/16/2006 12:39:38 PM
Every time I tried to open Reason within Acid 6 my computer would blue screen. Very frustrating but I downloaded 6.0b and the issue was resolved. Still, I'm having a bit of issue working with Reason (finding the Reason instruments using rewire within acid confuses me) and was wondering if I can use the reason instrument banks within the free version on kompakt provided with Acid 6.0. I'm new to Midi and to Acid and was wondering if this is possible and if so, how do I go about loading the Reason instruments in Kompakt. Thanks for any direction. |
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Subject:RE: Reason 3 and ACID 6a crash
Reply by: pwppch
Date:10/16/2006 2:29:14 PM
It is unlikely that the Reason sound banks can be translated into NI compatible sound banks. You would have to contact the Propellerheads, but I doubt there is a solution. What do you find confusing? What is it that you are trying to do? Peter |
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Subject:RE: Reason 3 and ACID 6a crash
Reply by: shelteredinsound
Date:10/17/2006 6:41:58 AM
Well, I'm obviously doing something wrong, but when I open Reason (or Acid opens it for me) through rewire it lists 60 some instrument choices but not all the instruments are playable when selected or when they are, another instrument plays ie. it lists Grand Piano but a Base sound comes out when played. Reason always opens with a default "document1" file and when I change it to something I am working on in Reason, it is not reflected in the list of instruments available when new midi tracks are created in Acid. I really like the Acid interface and only want to use the Reason instruments available as there are a lot more than the free Kompakt. I have no interest in arranging in Reason, just Acid. I want to lay down the midi notes in Acid but be able to select Reason instruments without confusion. I've looked through the Reason and Acid manuals trying to figure out why Acid was crashing which 6.0b has solved so if I could get a simple fix for the instrument listing issue I'd be more or less set. I'm missing a step somewhere along the way. Thanks in advance for any direction. |
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Subject:RE: Reason 3 and ACID 6a crash
Reply by: pwppch
Date:10/17/2006 9:39:25 AM
If I follow you correctly... If you want to use Reason as a bank of softsynths. - ReWire does not allow the host to tell Reason to "add a synth". You must do this from within Reason itself. - Rewire does not allow the host (ACID) to tell the Reason device what "sound" or sample set it is to use. Again, you must do this in Reason. - ReWire also does not communicate the "patch" or sound being used by a given Reason device. You should relable the "device" in Reason so you have a meaningful name appear in ACID as the "device name". - When you do this MIDI destination (output) will be added to ACID - one for each Reason instrument (or device) you added. - Add a track to ACID. - On the ACID track, if you select the MIDI output it will list "Reason" and then a sub menu for all of the "Reason device" available. You select the Reason device you want the track to send MIDI to and are done. Let me know if you have more questions. Peter |
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Subject:RE: Reason 3 and ACID 6a crash
Reply by: ozzborn
Date:10/17/2006 9:54:13 AM
for me acid sort of works with reason 2.5 example acid always crahes the rewire dll , when this happens in reason 3.0 you have to reinstall reason all over again, when this happens in reason 2.5 you cant run reason standalone cause acid crashed the reason engine but you can rewire reason in to acid no problem. this sucks cause i really miss the combinator and the reason mastering effects, but its better than nothing. i also got tired of reinstalling acid everyother day. Message last edited on10/17/2006 9:54:49 AM byozzborn. |
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Subject:RE: Reason 3 and ACID 6a crash
Reply by: pwppch
Date:10/17/2006 11:20:47 AM
What version of ACID? "always crashes the rewire.dll" This means every single time you run ACID it crashes. Period. Start ACID. Exit Crash. Every time. Or, do you do something before it crashes. Can you give me some idea as to what you are doing before it crashes? The more details the better. I don't see why you would have to reinstall anything. Maybe a reboot, but if you must reinstall Reason and ACID then something on your system is in a very bad state. Please, provide me as many details about how you cause the crash to occur. If ACID presents a crash dump, please email me so we can have a look. Thanks Peter |
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Subject:RE: Reason 3 and ACID 6a crash
Reply by: ozzborn
Date:10/17/2006 1:43:12 PM
sometimes i insert a sony plug sometimes i insert a uad plug sometimes im editting a pluggin sometimes im editting a wave sometimes im pressing play on the keyboard(spacebar) sometimes im editting a softsynth sometimes i dont have reason 3 open at all but when acid crashes it crashes the rewire dll and than i can not open reason 3.0 the only solution i have found is to go back to reason 2.5 this way, when acid crashes , i can still rewire reason into acid |
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Subject:RE: Reason 3 and ACID 6a crash
Reply by: pwppch
Date:10/17/2006 2:56:55 PM
Thanks but this is not helpful. Sorry, Peter Message last edited on10/17/2006 2:57:45 PM bypwppch. |
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Subject:RE: Reason 3 and ACID 6a crash
Reply by: ozzborn
Date:2/7/2007 8:38:25 AM
kvr |
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Subject:RE: Reason 3 and ACID 6a crash
Reply by: pwppch
Date:2/7/2007 9:46:47 AM
Not any more helpful than your previous posts. Sorry, Peter |