Subject:Want Some Free Loops?

Posted by: Illogical

Date:6/17/2006 7:02:49 AM

Hi Guys, Just letting you know I organized a loop disc compliation over on Acid Planet. Here's a link if you'd like a copy:

http://www.tradebit.com/download.php/811303

This completely free loop disc features over 600MB of loops from over twenty AP artists, including: DJ Kenneth A, The Thump, Girlio, Skagerrak, Fundamentalist, DJ Bricksta, Phiktion, James Reynolds, Sir Suicide Jockey, Illiterite Wino, Dane Vannatter, Scarecrow, Baby Milk Factory, dj_doughy, Nor@drenalin, Saint-B, Illogical and other mystery guests.

Check it out!!!



EDIT: Alright, here's some legalese for all the corporate wanks:

"You may use these loops in your original compositions without restriction. You may not redistribute, in any form, these loops, except as an integrated component of your original composition. Any rights not expressly given to the user are owned by the content creator."


EDIT 2: The original link is no longer active. Please use this alternative link if you would like to download the loops:

http://www.apathynation.info/content/AP-Loop-Disc.zip

Subject:RE: Want Some Free Loops?

Reply by: Illogical

Date:6/18/2006 6:48:31 AM

And lest anyone think I'm trying to get you to download a virus or something, here's a link to a thread on AcidPlanet with dozens of happy 'customers':

http://www.ACIDplanet.com/forum/?FID=4&TID=37950&TPN=1

Get 'em while they're fresh!

Subject:RE: Want Some Free Loops?

Reply by: JohnnyRoy

Date:6/18/2006 7:01:51 AM

Hey thanks for the link. I just downloaded them and they are very nice indeed. Great to see the community sharing like this. Excellent idea!

~jr

Subject:RE: Want Some Free Loops?

Reply by: vankirk

Date:6/18/2006 11:48:25 AM

THANKS NICE SOUNDS YOUR THE MAN.

Subject:RE: Want Some Free Loops?

Reply by: billybk

Date:6/18/2006 2:32:20 PM

Thanks a bunch, for the free loops. It is quite an eclectic loop disc.

Cheers,

Billy Buck

Subject:RE: Want Some Free Loops?

Reply by: Illogical

Date:6/19/2006 5:18:31 PM

Cheers dudes, glad you dig 'em. If you make any compositions with them, I'd love to hear, so post links!

Subject:RE: Want Some Free Loops?

Reply by: dafduc

Date:6/21/2006 5:09:52 AM

Ill, you so totally rock.

xxxoo,.

Daffy

Subject:RE: Want Some Free Loops?

Reply by: rsp

Date:6/21/2006 11:43:13 AM

Thanks a lot for this compilation - very interesting stuff !

Subject:RE: Want Some Free Loops?

Reply by: Illogical

Date:6/23/2006 6:39:30 PM

Oh no, what's up daf, you look so handsome without that copy 1, haha ; )

Subject:RE: Want Some Free Loops?

Reply by: Grazie

Date:6/25/2006 1:41:05 AM

OK . . Guys and Galz! What are the restrictions on using these loops? Can I use them as part of an ACID creation I make and apply this to a fee paying video I make?

Somebody please give me a simple answer?

Grazie

Subject:RE: Want Some Free Loops?

Reply by: Illogical

Date:6/25/2006 8:38:15 AM

Haha, dude, they're free, it was a labor of love...use 'em and abuse them however you like. I only asked for links cuz I'm keen to hear what people do with them, but they're 100% free and you can do whatever you want with them...even if you sell a million records with them, you don't owe me a dime.

The only thing I ask that you don't do is try to sell the loop library itself. It's meant to be free and I want it to stay that way.

Subject:RE: Want Some Free Loops?

Reply by: Laurence

Date:6/25/2006 9:43:36 AM

Yeah we know it was a labor of love... that's why we're worried. Labors of Love usually don't involve things as checking out or securing copyrights from whomever first made these sounds. My guess is that we can use them so long as what we use them for isn't published. No offence intended by the way, I appreciate your work. Someone could find themselves in real hot water though if we don't discuss this.

Subject:RE: Want Some Free Loops?

Reply by: Illogical

Date:6/25/2006 11:51:01 AM

meh, I don't know what to tell ya, everybody contributed the loops willingly, knowing it was for a free, no-copywrite release. If you wanna worry about it, I can't stop ya, but I didn't put this together to get into any business negotiations.

You could always contact the individual artists directly at AcidPlanet if you want to try to secure something in writing, but I'm not going to draft up a license for something I'm giving away and plainly stating is completely royalty-free.

Subject:RE: Want Some Free Loops?

Reply by: Illogical

Date:6/27/2006 1:52:44 PM

Alright, I amended my initial post above so you can sleep soundly tonite.

Subject:RE: Want Some Free Loops?

Reply by: JohnnyRoy

Date:6/28/2006 9:57:58 AM

I believe the issue is not whether the artists are saying it’s royalty free. The issue is: Do they have a right to say it’s royalty free? In other words, do ALL of the artists own ALL of the recordings on these loops so that they are the sole owner of the right to declare that it can be royalty free?

To say it another way, if I illegally sample a record and make a loop I have no right to declare that loop as royalty free since I didn’t have the rights for the media it was created from. People are afraid of getting sued by the original right owners if it was not the authors of this disc.

This is what people want to know.

~jr

Subject:RE: Want Some Free Loops?

Reply by: The Thump

Date:6/28/2006 12:23:37 PM

I can't speak for the other artists, but I can guarantee I own all the rights to the loops I provided for the compilation. They were created using custom patches on a Nord MicroModular - no sampling involved, just pure synthy goodness.

I'm glad to see there's interest in this project, and it's great you guys are asking these kinds of questions. When it comes to the legalitles of publishing (or anything) it's best to never assume.

Peace and Groove,
The Thump

Subject:RE: Want Some Free Loops?

Reply by: DKeenum

Date:6/28/2006 7:48:22 PM

Thank you!

Subject:RE: Want Some Free Loops?

Reply by: Illogical

Date:6/30/2006 10:17:43 AM

1500+ downloads, baby! I'll leave business to the suits, and keep hoping someday I'm famous enough for someone to think it's worthwhile to sue me.

Subject:RE: Want Some Free Loops?

Reply by: Patch2006

Date:7/8/2006 4:57:22 PM

awesome! loops are fun to have especially to work with different projects but i always wondered if it was like legal to use them with ones projects unless you want to make money then you need to make your own i guess.

-your friend
Patch

Subject:RE: Want Some Free Loops?

Reply by: Tattoo

Date:7/9/2006 12:05:12 PM

Illogical-

Sounds like a great collection, but I can't figure out how to download. When I copy the link, Tradebit says it's "not in my group" or something. I assume that's because I need to register with Tradebit (get a login), but I can't figure out how to do that short of signing up as a Seller on Tradebit. I'd rather not do all that (submit PayPal info, etc).

Am I missing something in the process?

Brian

Subject:RE: Want Some Free Loops?

Reply by: Illogical

Date:7/9/2006 12:30:35 PM

Hi Tattoo,
Sorry, the link is no longer active. Peace Love Productions hosted the download for me (Big Thanks!) and left it up for about two weeks. Another guy (deject) from AcidPlanet was also hosting it on his website...I'll check with him and see if he still has it up. If so, I'll post a link here.
Cheers,
iLL

Subject:RE: Want Some Free Loops?

Reply by: Illogical

Date:7/10/2006 11:27:11 AM

Okay, deject is the man...he's still got it hosted at his site. You can download here:

http://www.apathynation.info/content/AP-Loop-Disc.zip

Get it quick, I can't make any promises about how much longer it'll be hosted there.

Subject:RE: Want Some Free Loops?

Reply by: Tattoo

Date:7/10/2006 12:00:29 PM

Excellent! Okay, now to see if my dial-up connection can hack it! Yep, after being on the leading edge of broadband for the last six years I'm back to dialup. Military moved me to small town in Italy for now, and dial-up is the best my village has to offer. I'm dying ...

Brian