Subject:Mixing songs HELP

Posted by: jiblets00

Date:6/11/2006 6:28:04 PM

How do you take the music from one song and put it with the words to another? I dont know very much about any of this so i might need it in easy-to-understand terms please

Subject:RE: Mixing songs HELP

Reply by: Chienworks

Date:6/11/2006 7:31:59 PM

Well.

There's a lot more to this than you probably realize, so don't get your hopes up.

The only way to really accomplish this is to have access to an a cappella (words only) version of one song and an instrumental only version of the other. If all you have to work with is the finished mixed-down versions that contain both words and music then you're sunk. There is no way to separate the words from the music once they've been mixed together.

Assuming you do have the a cappella and instrumental versions, you can open both songs in Sound Forge, copy parts from one, then Edit/Paste/Mix them into the other.

Subject:RE: Mixing songs HELP

Reply by: jiblets00

Date:6/11/2006 7:43:29 PM

is there any other program that you can buy at like best buy or circuit city to be able to seperate vocals and instrumentals then mix them together?

Subject:RE: Mixing songs HELP

Reply by: Chienworks

Date:6/12/2006 6:00:14 AM

No.

True, there are some programs that claim to be able to remove the vocals and leave only the music behind. Some of them sort of almost kinda maybe work, once in a while, under certain far-from-common conditions. Sound Forge can do this with the "channel coverter / vocal cut" function. Be prepared for poor results sometimes and horrible, unsuable results most of the time.

There is no way to remove the music and leave the vocals.

Subject:RE: Mixing songs HELP

Reply by: leedsquietman

Date:6/12/2006 3:50:19 PM

As chienworks said.

There are some applications in soundforge and other programs which have some 'remove vocals' functions - what they basically do is cut the very center of the stereo channel out (or at least a frequency range from about 250 Khz - 3500 Khz) as many main vocals are recorded in mono and panned dead center. However, more and more, vocals are recorded in stereo and either panned a little left of center or have prominent delays/reverbs panned left of center which will still be heard and make the music sound weird. Just cutting out a whole frequency range also affects any other music especially if it is panned center (such as lead guitars often are in solos etc) - usually the effect is not great.

Better off to buy some CD-G discs for a karaoke machine than manually remove vocals using plug-ins!

Subject:RE: Mixing songs HELP

Reply by: Geoff_Wood

Date:6/12/2006 6:44:41 PM

You can do something pretty basic that can cut the vocals in some circumstances. This works in SF and other audio software.

However SF is not the right tool for recording new buits and remixing, or taking vocals from elsewhere and remixing. Try Vegas for that.

But the real answer is that your expectations are not realistic. There is no software that can do what you want.

geoff