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Subject:Multi track recording
Posted by: Stephan
Date:6/6/2006 4:47:40 AM

Will Acid 6.0 work as a mutitrack recording program and if so what are you using to do so ? I am considering the Mackie Onyx , Saffire, Digi or Motu. I have an unopened 6.0 (using 5) but the posts recently make it sound like there are so many bugs it is not worth the headache. Should I return the 6 version or will it work WELL as a mutlitrack recording solution.?? I also use Reason and Sound Forge.

Subject:RE: Multi track recording
Reply by: drbam
Date:6/6/2006 5:36:37 AM

Download the trial version and see if its worth it. This is what I did and found that the bugs, significant as they are, didn't really affect my *current* workflow with Acid enough to not invest in it. Currently I do very little midi work but a s I grow into this new version, I may find that the bugs may become an issue.

drbam

Message last edited on6/6/2006 5:37:23 AM bydrbam.
Subject:RE: Multi track recording
Reply by: JohnnyRoy
Date:6/6/2006 7:01:41 AM

The ACID Pro 6.0a update is already out so chances are you will find even less bugs. The trial is good for 30-days. Knock yourself out. You may find it works perfect for your workflow. Everyone's workflow is different.

~jr

Message last edited on6/6/2006 7:02:37 AM byJohnnyRoy.
Subject:RE: Multi track recording
Reply by: randygo
Date:6/6/2006 9:35:24 AM


>but the posts recently make it sound like there are so many bugs it is not worth the headache.

You can't really judge by the posts here. Many people come to this forum to discuss issues and problems no matter how significant, so it may seem at first glance that there are a lot of problems. The 6.0 release was very good and the 6.0a release is even more solid in my experience.

Cheers,

Randy

Subject:RE: Multi track recording
Reply by: vespesian
Date:6/6/2006 10:34:26 AM

I totally agree with randygo...and would add that acid is also the most fun/intuitive DAW prog. to use. The VST/midi issues are just kinda irritating, and shouldn't prevent anyone from making music. Remember, all Beethoven had was a pen.

Subject:RE: Multi track recording
Reply by: Ranger Bob
Date:6/6/2006 2:16:28 PM

I was one of the biggest complainers of Acid Pro 6.0, in fact I found it unsable and had to use old Acid to get any work done. Everything has totally changed with the new update of v6.0a! Sony did a great job and actually did fix all the major bugs, I haven't found one problem or had one single crash. You are safe with the new version.

Subject:RE: Multi track recording
Reply by: Stephan
Date:6/7/2006 6:43:51 AM

Thanks for the reassurance. Can you tell me what hardware you are using to get mutlitracks into Acid 6 ? My pc is capable (I think) pentium 4. 2.x processr 1 igig of ram. I am just not sure which hardware interface to choose. If users could expand on what hardware that would give me a clue where to start. Currently I just feed my Mackie into the on board sound card but I would like to upgrade to something proffesional Lynx, Saffire , Motu, I would like the possiblity of 16 tracks eventually although I don't need that right now.

Subject:RE: Multi track recording
Reply by: Iacobus
Date:6/7/2006 10:38:52 AM

16 tracks at once? What do you want to record, a small orchestra? ;)

Since I work solo for the most part, I record one wet track and one dry track in ACID Pro 6 simultaneously. Wet track via analog input and dry track via S/PDIF input. I use an Echo MiaMIDI. (Not many inputs, if you were wondering.)

Iacobus

Subject:RE: Multi track recording
Reply by: jaydeeee
Date:6/7/2006 12:54:54 PM

>>16 tracks at once? What do you want to record, a small orchestra? <<<

??
Have you ever been in a recording studio?
Perhaps he works in like situations (see below).

Rec an orchestra can sometimes take less than 16 btw (you don't mic each instrument in an orch), and some can req even more.

When we're talking rec a larger band live (little to no overdubs) you can reach 16 or more easily.
close mic'd drumkit for pop/rock - 4-6+ mics (sometimes) Jazz kits can require less in capturing a nice live sound.
room mics? add 'em up
horns/ horn section? if close mic'd, add those in.
guitar amp (get away with 1 mic)
organ leslie - full micing: 2 up top, 1 on lower rotor
backup vocs - 1-2 maybe more if close micing
vocalist
any direct ins (keys - 1 in for each, fx chs for any players using that live, etc.)

you see where I'm going with this, it all can add up.


Message last edited on6/7/2006 12:55:34 PM byjaydeeee.
Subject:RE: Multi track recording
Reply by: Stephan
Date:6/7/2006 1:00:28 PM

Thanks No you are right ! Seldom will I need all 16 tracks but want the abilbity if needed. I am definitely looking for something with multiple XLR inputs. I could use the Mackie inserts out to an ADat or interface w/ TRS inputs but would like to lose the board and go all digital or upgrade the mackie to the ONyx which have firewire outputs. Mackie is a little vague as to whether that works with other softwares but i think it does with tweaking. The Echo products are nice too. I sorta of wish Sony would ally with a specific hardware but they are not going that route and do have and extensive list of hardware that is compatible. I would like to narrow the choices down by hearing from users what they have been successful with.

Thanks again.

Subject:RE: Multi track recording
Reply by: drbam
Date:6/7/2006 1:53:08 PM

Well if you want something that is virtually guarateed to work with Sony apps and give you 16 x I/O, then I would suggest 2 Echo Laylas. They have proven to be rock steady since the beginning and continue to be so. I've used them for almost 7 years now. There are pricier units with better converters and other features but these things are just plain solid and many folks turn out commercial products all the time with them. You could pick up 2 of the 3G models new for under $1100, maybe less.

drbam

Subject:RE: Multi track recording
Reply by: jumbuk
Date:6/7/2006 4:01:01 PM

I'm using a Yamaha 01X (mLAN) which can handle 24 channels of audio at once. Haven't tried recording more than 4 or 5 yet. It works fine with Acid once you have it going, but it can be a bit of a beast to set up with your PC. You might like to look at some of the Firewire units like the PreSonus Firepod, which gets good reviews. I did once have a Echo card (Gina) and it was rock solid.

Subject:RE: Multi track recording
Reply by: Iacobus
Date:6/8/2006 11:11:56 AM

??
Have you ever been in a recording studio?
Perhaps he works in like situations (see below).

I was joking. Sheesh.

Iacobus

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