Subject:6.0a - go get it!!

Posted by: CDM

Date:6/1/2006 11:10:31 AM

tons and tons of fixes in this.

I think you'll be happy.

Subject:RE: 6.0a - go get it!!

Reply by: billybk

Date:6/1/2006 11:42:39 AM

Excellent, I get the latest UAD-1 v4.3 update(with Neve 1073 EQ) and the ACID Pro 6a update, in the same day. :-)

Cheers,

Billy Buck

Subject:RE: 6.0a - go get it!!

Reply by: CDM

Date:6/1/2006 12:06:09 PM

where's the 4.3 update??

Subject:RE: 6.0a - go get it!!

Reply by: billybk

Date:6/1/2006 12:34:09 PM

Read through this thread:

http://www.chrismilne.com/uadforums/viewtopic.php?t=4901

Some of us rabid UAD-1 fans, got a hold of the update yesterday, before they(UA) took the link down. It has not been "offcially" released to the general public. But there was a web address that directed you to the download link. If you read through the thread, I believe the link or another link, to the download, is active again.
The new Neve 1073 is simply superb, the best sounding EQ I have ever used. It works it's Neve magic on virtually anything. The upsampled (192k) 1073 is a DSP hog (you can get about 3 instances on a single card), but it's little sibling, the 1073SE is just as impressive and you can get 15-16 instances. For $249, I'll definately be getting the bundle, when the 14-day demo runs out.

Cheers,

Billy Buck

Just to get back on topic. The Neve 1073 works great in ACID Pro 6a! ;-)

Subject:RE: 6.0a - go get it!!

Reply by: randygo

Date:6/1/2006 12:47:00 PM

Sony,

Thanks! I am eager to try out the update this evening.

How is it working for everyone?

Cheers,

Randy

Subject:RE: 6.0a - go get it!!

Reply by: billybk

Date:6/1/2006 12:53:05 PM

How is it working for everyone?

It is working great so far. It has fixed a lot of lingering issues.


Cheers,

Billy Buck

Subject:RE: 6.0a - go get it!!

Reply by: klyon

Date:6/1/2006 3:24:18 PM

MIcrotonic works! (that was a big one.)
Thanks.

Subject:RE: 6.0a - go get it!!

Reply by: -Girlio-

Date:6/1/2006 3:35:00 PM

works great for me so far, groove agent2, and a few other major ones I use now work again, woohoo ;).
you guys rock.

Subject:RE: 6.0a - go get it!!

Reply by: kbruff

Date:6/1/2006 3:37:27 PM

THANKS -- SONY + Forum members for bringing this product to another level of reliability!

Subject:RE: 6.0a - go get it!!

Reply by: CineGobs

Date:6/1/2006 5:00:19 PM

Great job, Sony.

It seems all the problems I've encountered has been fixed. :-)

Subject:RE: 6.0a - go get it!!

Reply by: JohnnyRoy

Date:6/1/2006 9:06:11 PM

Working great here too. The VSTi windows resizing seems to be working well now.

~jr

Subject:RE: 6.0a - go get it!!

Reply by: ibliss

Date:6/2/2006 4:21:15 AM

Funny how they released the 'a' update the day after the reduced upgrade offer expired...

Subject:RE: 6.0a - go get it!!

Reply by: drbam

Date:6/2/2006 5:23:33 AM

"Funny how they released the 'a' update the day after the reduced upgrade offer expired..."

Yes, I found it pretty hard to miss that interesting "coincidence."

drbam

Subject:RE: 6.0a - go get it!!

Reply by: Chienworks

Date:6/2/2006 5:33:53 AM

Not that i'm trying to justify SONY's actions, but consider that you could have availed yourself of the lower priced upgrade offer at any time between when it was introduced and when the offer expired. Waiting until the first update comes out is a choice. Others chose to take advantage of the lower price ... and still got the update anyway.

Perhaps putting up with initial bugs is one of the reasons why the introductory price is lower.

Subject:RE: 6.0a - go get it!!

Reply by: ibliss

Date:6/2/2006 5:46:00 AM

I had already decided not to upgrade anyway - I didn't find the demo especially 'wowing'. I was one of the people waiting for Vegas with MIDI, which Acid 6 clearly is not. It feels clunky when trying to throw audio around.

If I need MIDI I will continue to use Cubase LE that can free with one of my soundcards, and keep using Vegas for audio mangling!

Just found it amusing that the update came out when it did, almost 'giving the finger' to those who wouldn't upgrade because of bug issues. Sony will never say when an update is coming, and it could have been another 3 months before issues were resolved, so sticking to the idea of 'buy the software for what it does now, not what it might do in the future' backfires in a sense - sometimes you do have to take a risk.

Subject:RE: 6.0a - go get it!!

Reply by: dabb

Date:6/2/2006 6:19:43 AM

Quote
"Funny how they released the 'a' update the day after the reduced upgrade offer expired..."

drbam
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I had decided that If Sony released the upgrade before the cut off date for the reduced upgrade price I was going to support them and buy a copy.
Sony's style. "one day after"....they should make an effort to get their act together, which is most likely to late.

Subject:RE: 6.0a - go get it!!

Reply by: Illogical

Date:6/2/2006 7:33:27 AM

Cool. Still no dragging events from one track to another though, eh?

Subject:RE: 6.0a - go get it!!

Reply by: billybk

Date:6/2/2006 7:52:34 AM

For all you conspiracy theorists, the ACID Pro 5a update took over 5 months to come out (Nov 2004-March 2005). I guess Sony should have just sat, on the update for another 3 months, instead of trying to get it out, as soon, as it was ready. Yeah, that would really make the exisiting ACID Pro 6 users, (those that have actually supported and invested in it already ), very happy campers indeed.

Cheers,

Billy Buck

Subject:RE: 6.0a - go get it!!

Reply by: billybk

Date:6/2/2006 8:04:36 AM

Cool. Still no dragging events from one track to another though, eh?

Unfortunately, that was never a defining feature, of ACID 6. ACID Pro 6a is mainly a bug fix update. I would love to get the ability to drag & drop, from one track to another. That is probably my number one request. I probably would not expect it until ACID Pro 7, since from what I've read, the current feature set, will not change, for ACID Pro 6.
If you have not already, put in a feature request, at Sony support.

Cheers,

Billy Buck

Subject:RE: 6.0a - go get it!!

Reply by: Davetheonemendez

Date:6/2/2006 10:39:21 AM

Render each audio file and re-open in vegas. You can freely drag and drop from one track to another with no problem. Vegas is the last stop for me in the remix process (when doing extreme audio editing) Sometimes I need to shorten things or blend certain parts together and I love the x-fades in vegas. Definitley a great editing program (off the grid) that i used differently than acid.

Subject:RE: 6.0a - go get it!!

Reply by: Angels

Date:6/2/2006 10:46:41 AM

You can't drag and drop, but you can copy and paste. Though not as efficient, it does accomplish the same thing.

Angels

Subject:RE: 6.0a - go get it!!

Reply by: ibliss

Date:6/3/2006 4:53:06 AM

"For all you conspiracy theorists, the ACID Pro 5a update took over 5 months to come out (Nov 2004-March 2005). I guess Sony should have just sat, on the update for another 3 months, instead of trying to get it out, as soon, as it was ready. Yeah, that would really make the exisiting ACID Pro 6 users, (those that have actually supported and invested in it already ), very happy campers indeed. "

Yes billy, you are completely entitled to mis-interpret/twist the meaning of the post.

If Sony knew they were releasing the update on that day, they could have mentioned on the forum before the offer expired.

I think it's great they got the update out so quickly; of course I wouldn't want them to delay it!

Cynical? Me? Just a little...

Subject:RE: 6.0a - go get it!!

Reply by: JohnnyRoy

Date:6/3/2006 5:22:20 AM

> If Sony knew they were releasing the update on that day, they could have mentioned on the forum before the offer expired.

I don’t know how it works at Sony, but you guys are giving big business a LOT more credit than they deserve. To think that development and marketing are coordinated in any sort of way is actually laughable. Having done development for a large corporation I can assure you that the marketing guys are off doing their own thing independent of whatever development is doing and the development guys are sweating it out trying to fix bugs as quickly as they can and not paying any attention to what the product costs, what offers are pending or anything like that.

My guess is they promised management that they’d have an update in May and to a software developer, May = May 31st at 11:59:59pm! ;-) (hence the illusion of a June 1st release)

~jr

Subject:RE: 6.0a - go get it!!

Reply by: alltheseworlds

Date:6/3/2006 5:42:10 AM

This is all a non-issue anyway. Is anyone *seriously* angry that the update came out a day after the end of the discount upgrade offer ? Why ? Were they too slow to realize that *every* release of Acid has had a series of free bugfix versions ? And if they were worried about installing something potentially buggy then buy the cheap upgrade and just don't install it until bugfix a, b or whatever.

But onto 6.0a... I too was hoping for drag-copy between tracks, but nevermind. I'll put that on the version 7 wishlist along with resizable-width mixer strips.

Subject:RE: 6.0a - go get it!!

Reply by: liquid

Date:6/3/2006 9:37:44 AM

Acid is still crap. Can't even do the most basic shit without crashing...total toy. I don't give a fuck what ya'll think. Acid is crap and 6.a makes just the tiniest of a dif. What a joke. Can't even be used to play loops reliably. Get it right sony, or get out of the market.

Subject:RE: 6.0a - go get it!!

Reply by: CDM

Date:6/3/2006 10:01:24 AM

gee. Let's see. there are what, 10,000 - 100,000 users of Acid? And maybe 100 people on this forum, and maybe 10 who think it's got major problems and you, who think it's crap. Well, you are one 100th of 1 percent of the users. So, go figure something else out.

Subject:RE: 6.0a - go get it!!

Reply by: merlyn

Date:6/3/2006 10:39:01 AM

"Can't even do the most basic shit without crashing...total toy. Can't even be used to play loops reliably."

Liquid, you've been here long enough to have been able to make an informed decision on the Acid product. From reading back over some of your posts, this is at least your 3rd purchase of Acid. If you are so unhappy with the product, what keeps you with it?

I've done my fair share of bitching about certain aspects of Acid (mostly about midi implementation), but when I got all the frustrations out, guess what? I shut the hell up, opened up Acid, and got to work. Why? Because it's still the fastest, most intuitive program that I've come across for music production to this day.

A6 is leaps and bounds over the previous. The midi implementation is actually usable this time around. Is it perfect? Hell no, but is any other program good enough to drag me away from Acid? Hell no!!!

I haven't had any show stopping crashes with 6.0 and I haven't had one since I installed 6.0a. Maybe I'm in the minority, but I don't think so. I can only say that if you think Acid "Can't even be used to play loops reliably", then maybe another program is more suited to what you're looking for?

Subject:RE: 6.0a - go get it!!

Reply by: busterkeaton

Date:6/3/2006 12:16:21 PM

Folks you can still find the Acid upgrade cheap on the web.

Here's B&H selling it for $130. B&H is very, very reputable. Other places have it for cheaper.

Subject:RE: 6.0a - go get it!!

Reply by: alltheseworlds

Date:6/3/2006 1:04:53 PM

Liquid, I think this is what you meant to say (at least this is what everyone is reading into your post):

My system is still crap. Can't even do the most basic shit without crashing...total toy. I don't give a fooble what ya'll think, I can't handle my own computer. It's crap and even the rock-steady 6.a makes not the tiniest bit of a dif. What a joke. I can't even set up my computer to play loops reliably. I better get it right soon, or get out of the market.

he he :-)

Subject:RE: 6.0a - go get it!!

Reply by: liquid

Date:6/4/2006 3:14:17 AM

Liquid, I think this is what you meant to say (at least this is what everyone is reading into your post):

My system is still crap. Can't even do the most basic shit without crashing...total toy. I don't give a fooble what ya'll think, I can't handle my own computer. It's crap and even the rock-steady 6.a makes not the tiniest bit of a dif. What a joke. I can't even set up my computer to play loops reliably. I better get it right soon, or get out of the market.

he he :-)


Ya..something like that. Let me just add to that....Ummm....sonar works perfect, never crashed once, reason works perfect never crashed once. Been using reason for years, and sonar for a couple of weeks. Been using acid since version 2, had it working (sort of) at version 2, had it working (sort of) at version 4. But never worked nearly as good as my grandma's old toaster. Installed 6.0a, tried to open a song that version 6 had corrupted...still shit. Tried using it via rewire in sonar, crashed after 5 min. Yahoo....hurray for acid version 6.0a. Maybe in 6.0b I'll be able to copy a file from one track to another....can you imagine how pro that feature would make it? I hate acid and want that to be made public in case I can save some poor schmuk like myself the folly of forking out $$$$ for a toy that doesn't work.
And yes Merlyn, I have been around. You say
A6 is leaps and bounds over the previous. The midi implementation is actually usable this time around. Is it perfect? Hell no, but is any other program good enough to drag me away from Acid? Hell no!!!
And I answer, have you ever tried Sonar, or reason to see what a well written program should run like, and how often (Basically never and I’m serious when I say this) it should crash once it makes it to version 6? Sonar is on version 5, reason on version 3, and they work better than any toaster I’ve ever used.
I should have evaluated 6 before I bought. I can't imagine what I was thinking when I assumed it would work, especially now that you can sort of multi track in acid. I guess my enthusiasm got the best of me. I'm not even slightly concerned about having wasted my money for a product that sort of works. What concerns me infinitely more is that acid still crashes all the time when doing basic operations. They can keep my $$$, all I ever asked for was a product that worked. And this time, I’m pissed.

Subject:RE: 6.0a - go get it!!

Reply by: jumbuk

Date:6/4/2006 4:38:47 AM

Liquid's posts are kind of fun. There is this guy somewhere who has Sonar and Reason working fine on his PC, and he likes them both, and yet he still has time to go try the latest version of an app he has never liked and that has never worked on his system - and he has time to bitch about it on this forum!

Liquid, we told you - it's your setup. 6a was never going to change things for you. I don't care if everything else on your PC works fine. All over the world there are users bitching about how everything on their system works perfectly (even Acid!) except for Sonar or Cubase or ... and it must be Cakewalk's fault or Steinberg's fault etc.

Liquid, do yourself a favour. If you seriously want Acid to work, create a new partition on one of your drives. Do a clean install of Windows and patch it up to the latest version. Install Acid 6a and then tell Sony support (not the forum) if it keeps crashing.

Subject:RE: 6.0a - go get it!!

Reply by: billybk

Date:6/4/2006 5:11:30 AM

And I answer, have you ever tried Sonar, or reason to see what a well written program should run like, and how often (Basically never and I’m serious when I say this) it should crash once it makes it to version 6? Sonar is on version 5, reason on version 3, and they work better than any toaster I’ve ever used.


I've been a SONAR user since version 1.0. I was one of the first to ever use it. I upgraded directly to it, from Pro Audio 9, over 5 years ago, as soon, as it was released. I've upgraded to every new version since then and currently use v5.2. I think I know SONAR extremely well. My favorite and most used audio apps are SONAR, ACID Pro & Sound Forge. I use them all interchangebly and they work very well together.
I have Sound Forge added to SONAR's Tools menu and use it as a dedicated audio editor. It integrates very well. Just highlight the audio clip, select SF, from SONAR's Tools menu and SF opens up with the selected wave file ready to edit. Close SF and the edited file automatically replaces the one in SONAR.
I also rewire ACID 6a to SONAR 5.2 without any issues. Select ACID Pro 6, as a rewire device, from SONAR's Synth Rack. ACID opens up and all the transport functions work (from both ACID & SONAR), ACID follows SONAR's tempo & loop points. In fact, right now I have an ACID Pro 5c rewire project, that I've opened in SONAR 5.2, using ACID pro 6a. I've set up the loop points about 32 measures apart and have enabled looping and have let it play continously, while I write this post. It's been about ten minutes and counting and not even a gap in playback.
I also rewire Project 5 2.01 to ACID Pro 6, as a rewire slave and in turn have rewired ACID Pro 6 to Project 5, as it's rewire slave.
In all cases, the ACID Pro 6a's rewire functionality is working, as expected, with no issues and I have yet to experience a crash.
Can you rewire ACID Pro 6 to any other rewire host apps, besides SONAR?
May I suggest you completely uninstall ACID Pro 6a and re-install completely fresh, from the ACID Pro 6a update. Also, after you un-install ACID Pro 6a, go into the Program Files|Sony Setup folder and delete the ACID Pro 6 folder and then re-boot.
I remember having a problem rewiring ACID Pro 5 to SONAR 4, one time (transport functions would not work) and I ended up re-installing SONAR 4, which ended up solving the problem.

Cheers,

Billy Buck

Subject:RE: 6.0a - go get it!!

Reply by: alltheseworlds

Date:6/4/2006 9:35:47 AM

I'm running Sonar 5PE on the same machine too. But it's not getting that much of a look-in at the moment. I'm having way too much success with Acid. Sonar is a mighty powerful beast, but I never really feel in control of it. With Acid the mechanics of it tend to sink into the background. I have more fun :-)

Liquid I am sorry you're having problems, I know how frustrating it can be. But really, going on general user reaction across many forums, this release of Acid is exceptionally clean. I don't think you can reasonably blame Acid here...