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rextilleon wrote on 4/23/2006, 11:51 AM
Ah, kind of like Sonicfire? That would be pretty cool. Now do some more spying for us----check out RED and the camera from Silicon Imaging. By the way, if the Red camera is under 20,000 grand with a decent lense, could you put a deposit down on it for me?
Chienworks wrote on 4/23/2006, 12:10 PM
$20 million? Really?
winrockpost wrote on 4/23/2006, 12:16 PM
is the red cam for real, or an urban legend ?
jwcarney wrote on 4/23/2006, 1:43 PM
Funny you should say that rex...I was just in line at the LVCC Starbucks listening to a guy say if what red is saying is true, no way they can be under 20K, the flash based magzines run around 50K apiece. So...Red must have something else up their sleeve.
Orcatek wrote on 4/23/2006, 3:05 PM
I saw a note in another magazine, but all it did was show a picture of the box and say it was being announced. Guess we will find out tomorrow.

I know I will be at the booth early to find out what's going on with the product line!
rextilleon wrote on 4/23/2006, 6:13 PM
Thank you Chien for pointing out my gross exaggeration---It appears that if anything is this world of rumor and innuendo is real, then Red just might be it. Remember, you are talking about a very big player----Jim Jannard---founder of Oakley----who just so happens to be obessed with cameras-------and really wants to make a giant leap when it comes to supplying independent videographers with state of the art tools. The man is worth close to a billion dollars and therefore, capitalization should not be a problem. I was having a conversation with a friend of mine who is an editor at Fortune magazine, and he knows Jannard, and truely believes that the man is a business revolutionary. We should know more tomorrow when Jannard addresses the public and tells us what the camera is, how much it should cost etc.
Spot|DSE wrote on 4/23/2006, 11:56 PM
Cinescore is real, impressive, and fast. It's not like SonicFire, has many different features. They announced it to the press today, but not sure what can/can't be said. VERY different from ACID and very different from anything that's ever been released before. SonicFire has their own market; Cinescore has a different view.
Orcatek, when you make it to the Sony booth, be sure to check out HDExchange. You'll find FrigidND and Glenn Chan in the Sony both demo'ing this power-product from Sony Professional.
RED is very real, BTW.
Matt_Iserman wrote on 4/24/2006, 8:48 AM
Cinescore news item
Coursedesign wrote on 4/24/2006, 9:21 AM
Looks like a great way to get a 44.1 kHz soundtrack.

44.1k????

Why on earth???

Of course this can be manually resampled in SoundForge to 48k, but why 44.1k to begin with???
birdcat wrote on 4/24/2006, 9:53 AM
Hey Spot -

Read the release - So how is this not another SonicFire Pro? I use SonicFire but would love to give this a throw.

Bruce
Nat wrote on 4/24/2006, 10:03 AM
Hmm depending on how good the software is this could mean less job for my musican colleagues at university. They already have troubles paying the rent. Not sure what to think about this yet.
Paul_Holmes wrote on 4/24/2006, 10:46 AM
My imagination's running wild with this. I'm thinking of a piece of software that lets you preview your video and at any frame say, "Right here I want percussion, at this frame I want drums, in this segment something upbeat, etc." Plus lets you bring in your Acid loops using the media manager.

Can't wait to see what Sony has come up with. I have a feeling it will take SonicFire to another level!
Coursedesign wrote on 4/24/2006, 11:04 AM
Hmm depending on how good the software is this could mean less job for my musican colleagues at university. They already have troubles paying the rent. Not sure what to think about this yet.

They could always march in the streets demanding that progress be stopped.

Seriously, working musicians have adopted quite well to changing job markets.

There will always be jobs for those who understand and have a feel for music. No machine can replace that.
GGman wrote on 4/24/2006, 11:37 AM
Nat,

I understand what you mean about musicians losing work, but that story goes way back to when a Mellotron replaced symphony musicians with the Moody Blues. And all the synth keuboards after that. You should also go jump all over George Lucas. He is using computers to replace actors and location shoots. :-)

GG
Nat wrote on 4/24/2006, 12:34 PM
Yeah, though the Mellotron didn't sound quite like an orchestra :p

I'm not saying I'm against it, I work on physical modelling of acoustic instruments at University which could eventually replace musicians. I'm just wondering generally about the issue of computers replacing humans.
Orcatek wrote on 4/24/2006, 6:26 PM
Paul,

Note quite everything you dreamed up, but very impressive.

You can give the software "hints" to tell it to punch it up, or tone it back at this point, and then change again here.

They didn't show bringing ACID loops in, but it will generate wav files that have the ACID meta-data so you can tweak them in there. (Correction: Will not have ACID Meta-data in files. You can get the tempo from the interface, but it is not in the wav file, nor is key - due to key changes during the music. )

The music sounded good. A key thing will be the expansion of the base music library. Without a large base you will get some staleness to the music. I have that issue with Sonicfire, where I hear music in a video that I had used. Sure its not exactly the same, but you can recoginize it as the same base music.

I also saw the demo of Sonicfire V4. Very good upgrade. The sales docs and demos don't provide enough info. I played with it and it can do some really cool things. With a little work you can generate each insturment group as a different wav file to allow you to do a 5.1 mix later.

I will own both products, as they each have their benefits.

For a version 1 product, Cinescore has a lot of features. I am sure if the product is received as well as I think it will be, version 2 will be awesome.