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Subject:Kompakt won't show up.
Posted by: Jeff_Smith
Date:4/12/2006 3:10:28 PM
When ACID 6 starts up I can see it has scanned Kompakt. The .dll is there. When I refresh my VST's, I can read that it has added Kompakt. Yet it does not show up as a VST. I registered and authorized it successfully. Any ideas? Jeff |
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Subject:RE: Kompakt won't show up.
Reply by: PeterWright
Date:4/12/2006 6:21:23 PM
Not sure where you're looking, but here's where I find it - Midi Track Header - Midi Output - Insert Soft Synth - Kompact should be listed there. |
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Subject:RE: Kompakt won't show up.
Reply by: Jeff_Smith
Date:4/12/2006 6:53:37 PM
No, it is not there, all my other synths are there and working such as Absynth 3. The when I go to rescan all my VSTs I can read (if I don't blink) that Kompakt has been added, yet it still does not show up? I even added folder in my VSTIpugin folder with a copy of just the kompakt dll, rescan and still no go? |
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Subject:RE: Kompakt won't show up.
Reply by: CDM
Date:4/13/2006 5:21:54 AM
this happened to me too. I just had to uninstall acid and reinstall (leave Kompakt alone). That took care of it. you could also try opening acid with Ctrl-Shift to reset prefs. |
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Subject:RE: Kompakt won't show up.
Reply by: Jeff_Smith
Date:4/13/2006 8:43:48 AM
I tried restarting and re installing, still no luck. I have all my programs and VSTplugins folder in my E drive since my C drive is full, but everything is pointing to the right drive. ACID still says it is loading kompakt on startup, maybe I need to reinstall both acid and kompakt. Jeff |
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Subject:RE: Kompakt won't show up.
Reply by: pwppch
Date:4/13/2006 8:58:11 AM
Try this: With ACID not running, run regedit and locate and delete the following key: HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Sony Media Software\ACID Pro\6.0\Metrics\VSTi Synth Start ACID. This should force ACID to completely rescan all VST Instruments at start up. Peter |
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Subject:RE: Kompakt won't show up.
Reply by: Jeff_Smith
Date:4/13/2006 10:34:19 AM
That did not work either, all my other plugs work. Should I remove and reinstall Kompakt? (I already tried to repair it in add/remove programs? BTW, why does ACID 6 not have an uninstaller from the start menu, AP4 did? Message last edited on4/13/2006 10:37:30 AM byJeff_Smith. |
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Subject:RE: Kompakt won't show up.
Reply by: Jeff_Smith
Date:4/14/2006 8:28:43 AM
I have reinstalled both Kompakt and AP6, cleared my registry, rescanned my VSTi folders, still Kompakt does not show up as a synth. again all my other VSTis work and I see Kompakt load at AP6 start up and when I refresh/scan the VSTplugins folder. ...hmm what to do? |
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Subject:RE: Kompakt won't show up.
Reply by: kirk/zenpool
Date:4/14/2006 1:14:02 PM
This is the reason i'm searching the forum. i'm having exactly the same problem. It says it's there, shows it while scanning, but isn't in the list. Sonar5, FL Studio both recognizes Kompakt. Btw- I've been an acid user since 2.0- put me down for "pure BS" that we have to pay for tech service, at least in the first 5-10 days. very disappointing. |
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Subject:RE: Kompakt won't show up.
Reply by: pwppch
Date:4/14/2006 2:27:49 PM
This is the ACID Pro 6 Kompakt or the NI retail Kompakt? In the VST Instruments pref page is Kompakt listed? If you "Refresh" from the VST Instruments Prefs page, are you told that Kompakt was added? Peter |
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Subject:RE: Kompakt won't show up.
Reply by: kirk/zenpool
Date:4/14/2006 3:01:12 PM
the Acid 6 Kompakt. it appears everywhere except the Acid VST list. it shows at startup, in the refresh list., still nada. kirk/zenpool |
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Subject:RE: Kompakt won't show up.
Reply by: Jeff_Smith
Date:4/14/2006 3:28:29 PM
This is the ACID Pro Kompakt DVD I received in the mail from Sony. When I refresh VSTs I can see it scanning and then adding Kompakt, it goes by real fast, but then it never shows up in the list of VSTs |
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Subject:RE: Kompakt won't show up.
Reply by: tnw2933
Date:4/14/2006 3:29:03 PM
Jeff, I am having exaclty the same problem that you have reported. I have installed Acid Pro 6 and Kompakt. On starting up Acid Pro 6 it clearly sees the Kompakt .dll. However, under VST instruments I do not see the Kompakt palyer and have no way to access it. I have uninstalled and reinstalled Acid Pro 6 again, but I still don't see the Kompakt palyer under VST instruments. I looked for the registration key that Sony PCH suggested deleting and I cannot find it. Does anyone have any suggestions for solving this problem? I am throguhly disgusted. Tom |
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Subject:RE: Kompakt won't show up.
Reply by: kirk/zenpool
Date:4/14/2006 3:50:54 PM
Jeff & Tom- i don't know if it has any meaning (trying to sleuth this), but open your programs/NI/Kompact folder... Is a shortcut to the .dll file there? In mine, it's only the library, HTML file, some pdfs. Sonar opens it from program files, not the VST folder. I tried using the NI/Kompact folder as an alternative search/ refresh, it came up blank. My other plugins individually show when i do the same thing. k/z Message last edited on4/14/2006 4:20:15 PM bykirk/zenpool. |
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Subject:RE: Kompakt won't show up.
Reply by: tnw2933
Date:4/14/2006 5:09:33 PM
k/z, I have no shortcut to the Kompakt .dll file in the Native Instruments folder. When I click on "Refresh" in the VST Preferences and rescan for my VST's I get a message that the Kompakt player has been added, but it does not show up in the list. In fact, I was only able to get that message after making a copy of the Kompak Sony Acid ProVST.dll and renaming it with no spaces in the name, i.e.using underscores to replace the spaces. I think it is clear from the number of us who are having the same issue that Sony's Acid Pro 6 has a problem here. The suggestion to clear the registry does not solve the problem, the suggestion to uninstall and reinstall Acid Pro 6 does not solve the problem, so Kompakt player is totally useless to me. Sony how about an answer on this one? Tom |
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Subject:RE: Kompakt won't show up.
Reply by: kirk/zenpool
Date:4/14/2006 5:36:04 PM
Yeah, it's more widespread than they realize. the same discussion is starting at acidplanet- https://www.acidplanet.com/forum/?T=720 BTW -previous versions of Acid do the same. It's not totally useless to me, i can use it in Sonar! LOL kirk/zenpool www.songplanet.com/zenpool Message last edited on4/14/2006 5:39:17 PM bykirk/zenpool. |
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Subject:RE: Kompakt won't show up.
Reply by: pwppch
Date:4/14/2006 6:11:26 PM
>>Sony how about an answer on this one? We currently have no answer. We have yet to reproduce this problem. We are looking into the problem. Where is the Kompakt Sony ACID ProVST.dll located? (The full path) Peter |
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Subject:RE: Kompakt won't show up.
Reply by: kirk/zenpool
Date:4/14/2006 7:22:28 PM
Hi Peter- Windows/system32/ NI DFD KOMPAKT .dll I tried it. it opens Acid, which would mean that it's installed. It just isn't showing in the VST list. It seems to work right up to that point. When i select another softsynth's program file (C:\ program files...)in the VSTi preferences window, rather than the VST folder, it shows the single file, w/ the name of the synth. A refresh adds the synth. Not so w/ Kompakt. kirk/zenpool |
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Subject:RE: Kompakt won't show up.
Reply by: tnw2933
Date:4/14/2006 8:03:09 PM
Peter, The full path is C:\Program Files\Steinberg\Vstplugins. This is exactly the folder that is being searched in VST Preferences. It even reports that it has found the Kompakt Player but it never shows up in the list. This is the same problem that several others have reported. Tom |
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Subject:RE: Kompakt won't show up.
Reply by: kirk/zenpool
Date:4/14/2006 8:44:51 PM
hey Tom- That's the folder you placed it in in obviously, Cubase. the root folder is in windows/system 32. |
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Subject:RE: Kompakt won't show up.
Reply by: Jeff_Smith
Date:4/14/2006 9:19:00 PM
My main drive is partitionED into C and E. Kompakt Sony ACID ProVST.dll is loated in: E:\Program Files\Vstplugins |
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Subject:RE: Kompakt won't show up.
Reply by: kirk/zenpool
Date:4/14/2006 10:48:20 PM
Mine too. I created a Vst folder in program files, "C:\program files/Vstplugins ". I use several programs that share effects. Go to My computer /windows/ find the system32 file (they're alphabetized), scroll down to the folder- NI_DFD_KOMPAKT.dll . Peter- The Kompakt .dll "launches with" properties reads "unknown application"....? kirk |
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Subject:RE: Kompakt won't show up.
Reply by: miquel
Date:4/15/2006 12:10:01 AM
I'd suggest you to see at Acidpro6 Options/Preferences VstInstruments Tab and copy Kompakt dll file to the directory path it shows. Windows/system32 is NOT a good plugin directory. Message last edited on4/15/2006 12:10:52 AM bymiquel. |
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Subject:RE: Kompakt won't show up.
Reply by: kirk/zenpool
Date:4/15/2006 12:44:19 AM
That opens the same window that we're discussing, and it won't open it. As stated abouve, my program directory is C:\ProgramFiles/Vstplugins. There's no problem w/ the location. The file is where the program.exe sent it at install. It works perfectly in Sonar and FLstudio. That suggests the problem lies w/ Acid. So far, all the clues lead back to the refresh preferences window. The program seems frozen on the migrated preferences of the earlier version. Tomorrow, i'll see if i can get another VST synth going, post the results, unless Peter solves this. kirk |
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Subject:RE: Kompakt won't show up.
Reply by: miquel
Date:4/15/2006 1:24:15 AM
kirk, Please, execute regedit.exe Go to HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Sony Media Software\ACID Pro\6.0\Metrics\VSTi Synth DELETE 'Plugs' key Load Acid Pro 6 again. Now, you will be able to select Kompakt. Message last edited on4/15/2006 1:25:07 AM bymiquel. |
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Subject:RE: Kompakt won't show up.
Reply by: kirk/zenpool
Date:4/15/2006 7:50:15 AM
hey mahtazz- I appreciate it, but...Peter's already suggested that. Both Jeff and i've tried it, it doesn't do anything. In fact, it adds a couple of "not loaded"s to the process. I have a Vst synth i can try adding today, see if the problem's w/ Kontakt. I'm fairly certain it isn't. p e a c e kirk |
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Subject:RE: Kompakt won't show up.
Reply by: tnw2933
Date:4/15/2006 8:42:47 AM
Kirk, < So far, all the clues lead back to the refresh preferences window.The program seems frozen on the migrated preferences of the earlier version.> I agree completely. When I installed Kompakt it put the .dll file in the folder that I cited above. I did not put it there. By compying this file and either renaming it to a shorter name or putting underscores in the spaces of the name the orignal file had, when I refresh VST preferences, it says that it has added Kompakt to the list of VST instrumnents, but Kompakt still does not show up in the list. To me this clearly points the problem straight at Acid Pro 6 VST Preferences not adding it to the list even though it says that it has. Now, why some of us are having this bug and others are not, I don't know. My other VST instruments work fine in other programs. I had the Acid Pro 6 Trial installed on this machine but I uninstalled it before adding the purchased version if that matters. I hope Sony can help us straighten this out. Tom |
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Subject:RE: Kompakt won't show up.
Reply by: bnmoore
Date:4/15/2006 8:53:09 AM
The NI_DFD_Kompakt.dll is just the Direct from Disk extensions .dll. The VSTi plugin is named "Kompakt Sony ACID ProVST.dll" It's 15.9MB. It works fine here. Is it listed and checked as "available" under Options | Preferences | VST Instruments? Are you sure the folder containing the VSTi is included in either the Default or Alternate VSTi search folders? |
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Subject:RE: Kompakt won't show up.
Reply by: Jeff_Smith
Date:4/15/2006 9:46:27 AM
Yes, I have also tried to copy the .dll and put it in new folders then select that with Alternate VSTi search folder 1 and 2. I have also tried omitting all other VSTis so the search folder is only pointing to Kompakt Sony ACID ProVST.dll, it scans it and says it is added but then does not show up. BTW my Kompakt Sony ACID ProVST.dll is 16,316 KB |
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Subject:RE: Kompakt won't show up.
Reply by: billybk
Date:4/15/2006 10:00:54 AM
BTW my Kompakt Sony ACID ProVST.dll is 16,316 KB Hmmm......I just checked the general properties tab, of my Kompakt Sony ACID ProVST.dll and it says "16,707,584"KB. I am not having any problems with the VST, in ACID Pro 6, at all. I did install it, on my "C" (OS/Programs) drive though, in my Cakewalk VST plugins folder though. Which where I install all my VSTi plugins. Billy Buck |
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Subject:RE: Kompakt won't show up.
Reply by: Jeff_Smith
Date:4/15/2006 10:11:57 AM
Correction, my explorer window says 16,316KB, right click for properties says 15.9MB (16,707, 584 bytes) File version 1.0.9.3 I also tried putting it on my C OS drive as well. |
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Subject:RE: Kompakt won't show up.
Reply by: miquel
Date:4/15/2006 10:12:23 AM
Have you tried to: 1.- uninstall Kompakt Acid 2.- uninstall acidpro6 3.- delete the Plugs keys 4.- move all the plugins to another folder 5.- install Acid 6.- execute acid 7.- exit Acid 8.- install Kompakt Acid 9.- execute Acid (Kompakt should show and run properly) 10.- move again the plugins If this don't solve the problem, please, write here the steps you follow to install Acid and Kompakt. I try to reproduce here. Have luck. Message last edited on4/15/2006 10:13:04 AM bymiquel. |
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Subject:RE: Kompakt won't show up.
Reply by: Jeff_Smith
Date:4/15/2006 10:24:44 AM
mahtazz when I uninstall ACID it deletes the plug keys, so step 6 does not make sense. *********************************** Have you tried to: 1.- uninstall Kompakt Acid 2.- uninstall acidpro6 3.- delete the Plugs keys 4.- move all the plugins to another folder 5.- install Acid 6.- execute acid 7.- exit Acid 8.- install Kompakt Acid 9.- execute Acid (Kompakt should show and run properly) 10.- move again the plugins |
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Subject:RE: Kompakt won't show up.
Reply by: miquel
Date:4/15/2006 10:32:20 AM
You are right, Jeff! And what about the rest, did have you luck? Message last edited on4/15/2006 10:33:02 AM bymiquel. |
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Subject:This is weird. RE: Kompakt won't show up.
Reply by: Jeff_Smith
Date:4/15/2006 11:21:26 AM
I did exactly as you said except I had to put Kompakt samples on my E drive. My system drive is partitioned into a 11GB C drive with a 30GB partition E drive. I Installed everything to default C drives. moved all my plugs so only Kompakt dll is in my C:\Program Files\VSTplugins folder. When I first executed ACID after I loaded Kompakt, for the first time kompakt shows up all by itself. The I add a MIDI track, insert soft synth and its gone! and now I have only the Sony DLS soft synth, which was not there before. |
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Subject:RE: This is weird. Kompakt won't show up.
Reply by: miquel
Date:4/15/2006 11:28:16 AM
When I have this situation with one plugin, I delete the Plugs registry key and the next time I execute Acid it loads as expected. |
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Subject:RE: SOLVED! Kompakt won't show up.
Reply by: Jeff_Smith
Date:4/15/2006 12:00:23 PM
So I deleted the plugs registry again, this time it worked! One side note, for some reason the first time Kompakt finally opened, my M-Audio ASIO drivers were gone, I rebooted, and they were there. So now its time to play around with Kompakt. Thanks |
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Subject:RE: This is weird. Kompakt won't show up.
Reply by: kirk/zenpool
Date:4/15/2006 12:14:35 PM
OK....This was a bit unexpected... I would've bet $$ that this wasn't the case, but... I just now installed Rob Papen's Blue VST synth... it went straight to the list at startup, worked w/o a refresh...! Hmmmm... Kompakt works w/ Sonar 5 and FL studio... This is baffling why Acid won't recognize this one Vst, especially one specifically made for it. kirk |
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Subject:RE: This is weird. Kompakt won't show up.
Reply by: miquel
Date:4/15/2006 12:31:17 PM
Please, try my method. Jeff has the plugin working now. |
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Subject:RE: SOLVED! Kompakt won't show up.
Reply by: kirk/zenpool
Date:4/15/2006 12:31:34 PM
Jeff- I did it again, and it didn't work. Have you restarted Acid? Is Kompakt still in the list? Also, bizarre that it failed several times, then after it closed your ASIO drivers, it worked. kirk Message last edited on4/15/2006 12:33:43 PM bykirk/zenpool. |
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Subject:RE: This is weird. Kompakt won't show up.
Reply by: kirk/zenpool
Date:4/15/2006 1:49:15 PM
I eliminated the file, then re-installed Acid. I'm happy to say that it appeared in the list, looks like it permanently removed the Plugs folder. Thanks to everyone for helping. p e a c e kirk/zenpool www.songplanet.com/zenpool |
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Subject:RE: SOLVED! Kompakt won't show up.
Reply by: Jeff_Smith
Date:4/15/2006 2:59:36 PM
Yes, I have restarted ACID as well as rebooted and it still works and my ASIO drivers have stayed intact. I just added absynth 3 to my alternate folder and both co-exist. It worked even when my ASIO did not show up, but under MS sound mapper, I had to reboot to get the ASIO back. Are you installing everything on the default OS C drive? When I switched to that and then deleted my plug keys that was when it worked. Jeff Jeff- I did it again, and it didn't work. Have you restarted Acid? Is Kompakt still in the list? Also, bizarre that it failed several times, then after it closed your ASIO drivers, it worked. kirk |
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Subject:RE: SOLVED! Kompakt won't show up.
Reply by: tnw2933
Date:4/15/2006 3:09:50 PM
Well guys I am glad that you have finally gotten Sony Acid Kompakt to show up in Acid Pro 6, but I have followed all of the steps posted above, and Kompakt never shows up. Specifically, I uninstalled Acid, uninstalled Kompakt, moved my VST Plugins to a new folder, set up an empty folder called VST Plugin's on the C:\, reinstalled Acid, executed Acid, reinstalled Kompakt, deleted the Plugs folder, and ran Acid. No Sony Acid Kompakt shows up in the VST Preferences list. Redirected the Preferences search to teh folder that Kompakt Acid .dll was placed into, and search still resultsin no Kompakt Acid in the list. Does anyone have any remaining ideas? I am totally exhausted trying to get Kompakt Acid to show up in Acid Pro 6. Tom |
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Subject:RE: SOLVED! Kompakt won't show up.
Reply by: kirk/zenpool
Date:4/15/2006 6:58:59 PM
Tom- i DIDN'T uninstall Kompakt before reinstalling Acid. Have it installed, plugs gone, remove ACID w/ add/remove programs, then reinstall Acid. That way, Acid reads it at first time startup. When you start Acid each time, the plugs folder reappears (at least it did on mine) until you reinstall. Designating a VST folder's a good idea, but it shouldn't be a crucial factor. My gut feeling is that Kompakt forces a subfolder at install- "C:\Vstplugins/NIkompakt...." that may be hidden, rather than using the folder "Vstplugins". I noticed that even when i tried to send it to the VST folder, it still created an extension. I'm guessing, but it looks like Acid doesn't scan the folder once it's past first startup kirk Message last edited on4/15/2006 7:04:31 PM bykirk/zenpool. |
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Subject:RE: Kompakt won't show up.
Reply by: pwppch
Date:4/15/2006 7:43:23 PM
FYI: NI_DFD_KOMPAKT.dll is not the VST Instrument. This is NI's disk streaming support DLL use by their sampler engines. This is loaded indirectly by the Kompakt VSTi. Peter |
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Subject:RE: SOLVED! Kompakt won't show up.
Reply by: tnw2933
Date:4/15/2006 8:19:52 PM
Kirk, Thanks for the additional suggestions, but I have done all of this and I still don't see Kompakt as a VST in Acid Pro 6 on this computer (a 2.8 GHZ P4). I have finally given up on this machine and installed both Acid Pro 6 and Kompakt on my HP laptop and everything works fine. I have no idea why Kompakt will not show up on my P4 in Acid Pro 6. I did the same thing on the P4 that I did on the HP laptop. Again, thanks for your help. Tom |
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Subject:RE: SOLVED! Kompakt won't show up.
Reply by: kirk/zenpool
Date:4/16/2006 12:02:59 AM
> I have finally given up on this machine and installed both Acid Pro 6 and Kompakt on my HP laptop and everything works fine.. LOL!!! Some things man was not meant to know......;-) kirk |