Subject:Thoughts on V6?

Posted by: spinweb

Date:4/7/2006 6:11:01 AM

I've used v5 since it came out and like it a lot. I haven't yet used MIDI and thus I'm not sure all the MIDI improvements mean anything to me. The other main change seems to be multitracking. While I do hate having 37 tracks in my songs, to the point where I can barely keep track of them, the workflow issues of multitracking concern me. I mostly work by myself recording. The advantage of creating new tracks for each overdub, is that I don't need to "man the controls" precisely and attempt to grab my guitar in 0.5 seconds and whip off my lick, then go back to ACID! That seems crazy.

Any thoughts on how a single dude can work with this multitracking feature? How to play and record simultaneously?

Thanks!

Rick

Subject:RE: Thoughts on V6?

Reply by: Spectralis

Date:4/7/2006 6:25:39 AM

If you record on your own and play a single instrument then is multitracking useful to you? If you want to record a backing track made up of various synths (if you use midi instruments) while playing guitar then it might come in handy. Or if you're jamming with other musicians then multitracking comes into its own.

You may be interested in ACID 6 because it can now have multiple clips on one track. Instead of having various takes on single tracks they can now be combined saving space and allowing FX processing of all your clips on a single track without needing to use the buss.

Personally, I didn't hesitate to upgrade because v6 is so much better in many ways than v5. The upgrade price was very, very inexpensive compared to other hosts IMO.

Subject:RE: Thoughts on V6?

Reply by: spinweb

Date:4/7/2006 6:35:22 AM

--If you record on your own and play a single instrument then is multitracking useful to you?--

Of course it is! First, I play all sorts of stuff, sing, think crazy thoughts, etc. Even if I was a solo guitarist, if I screw up a passage--how the heck do I fix it with multitracking? I used to not have to get it wedged in between other stuff flawlessly.... I'd just hit record and start when the part got close and let there be overlap.... See what I mean?

Subject:RE: Thoughts on V6?

Reply by: thenoizzbox

Date:4/7/2006 6:55:15 AM

Open the PDF manual and look at pages 160 and 161:

"Recording Into A Time Selection"
"Recording Into An Event"
"Recording Into An Event With A Time Selection"

Subject:RE: Thoughts on V6?

Reply by: thirdnostril

Date:4/7/2006 6:55:41 AM

How does multitracking stop you from re-recording a part?

Subject:RE: Thoughts on V6?

Reply by: Vocalpoint

Date:4/7/2006 7:39:34 AM

"Any thoughts on how a single dude can work with this multitracking feature? "

My thoughts are - how could you possibly survive WITHOUT multitracking? If you are worried about duffing a part....or "manning controls"...don't. Set up a looped time selection, hit record and just keep recording over and over until you get it right.

ACID just keeps stacking up the clips and store each take as a separate file. You can easily pick and choose which one you want to use.

Could not be any easier.

Cheers!

VP

Subject:RE: Thoughts on V6?

Reply by: spinweb

Date:4/7/2006 7:54:10 AM

Thanks guys. This is one of those things I've never gotten around to working with. I guess part of me is afraid I'll wind up with gigs n gigs of forgotten crap on my hard drive-- if I forget to clean it all up afterwards.

You all know how it is.. hard to let the juice flow when recording, then come back and tidy up... wind up with chunks of bloat on hard drive later.

Rick

Subject:RE: Thoughts on V6?

Reply by: GLYPTICminority

Date:4/7/2006 8:21:52 AM

Try this: Specify a temp folder in the Acid preferences, then when done recording all your parts and you have them where you want them, clean up your media pool in Acid, although I haven't looked for it yet I'm sure it's there at least Vegas has one, if not then nevermind that part - once you have done that, click "save as..." and select copy all media with project and then save the file in it's own special folder. Then you can delete all the temp files and lessen the "bloat" on your hard drive.

Subject:RE: Thoughts on V6?

Reply by: Spectralis

Date:4/7/2006 4:08:19 PM

--If you record on your own and play a single instrument then is multitracking useful to you?--

>>Of course it is! First, I play all sorts of stuff, sing, think crazy thoughts, etc. Even if I was a solo guitarist, if I screw up a passage--how the heck do I fix it with multitracking? I used to not have to get it wedged in between other stuff flawlessly.... I'd just hit record and start when the part got close and let there be overlap.... See what I mean?

I'm not sure I do. My understanding of multitracking is that it lets me record a variety of instruments on seperate tracks in a single take. If you don't need to do that then carry on recording in the way you're used to. ACID 6 offers this flexibility.

Subject:RE: Thoughts on V6?

Reply by: alltheseworlds

Date:4/7/2006 8:33:46 PM

Thoughts on V6 ?

I'm stunned. I never thought Sony would pull a decent release of Acid out of the hat. V4 was a shocker. V5 was even worse. But V6... this is exactly what I want. And incredibly it's running flawlessly here.

After two days with the demo I've already bought the upgrade.

I'm sure there'll be some bugs and annoyances along the way, but for now I'm very pleased.

Subject:RE: Thoughts on V6?

Reply by: PeterWright

Date:4/7/2006 8:59:58 PM

Multi tracking can be used many ways. You can simultaneously record as many tracks as your processor and sound card will allow ...

... or you can record one track at a time and finish up with as many tracks as you want.

The beauty of AP6 is that you can use loops, and record straight audio, midi and softsynths in any combination all on the same timeline.

Subject:RE: Thoughts on V6?

Reply by: Iacobus

Date:4/8/2006 2:19:58 PM

You can also (equipment permitting) record a dry track while recording a wet track at the same time. (Yay!)

I always record into folders on a project-by-project basis. You can specify ACID to automatically record into the folder your project resides by using Options > Preferences > Folders. In the "record" field, specify <Project> as the location. (You'll have to save your project in the folder first before you start recording.)

You can do what you want from there, like bounce down any recordings into one track (using a subfolder). You can then delete the original tracks (and the original recordings) if you want.

Iacobus
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Subject:RE: Thoughts on V6?

Reply by: Weevil

Date:4/8/2006 3:38:30 PM

>Options > Preferences > Folders. In the "record" field, specify <Project> as the location. (You'll have to save your project in the folder first before you start recording.)


This is an important feature but it is buried very deeply in the interface.

It would be good if you were able to right click on a folder in the explorer window and select “Set as Project folder” as a shortcut way of doing to this.

Subject:RE: Thoughts on V6?

Reply by: GLYPTICminority

Date:4/9/2006 7:26:05 AM

Thank you so much! I missed that in my preferences.

Subject:RE: Thoughts on V6?

Reply by: jumbuk

Date:4/9/2006 4:33:20 PM

"Any thoughts on how a single dude can work with this multitracking feature? How to play and record simultaneously?"

You might want to consider adding a Frontier Tranzport controller to your setup. That way, you can:

- Keep your mics away from your PC, so you don't pick up fan noise
- Make it easier to start and stop recording from where you are playing.

Also, one advantage of multi-tracking for solo performers is that you can use multimic setups. I like to record my acoustic guitar with two mics, one reasonably close to the soundhole, and another a bit further away for ambience and "zing". Also works for my flutes as well.