Subject:Tascam US-2400

Posted by: Moist

Date:4/4/2006 3:46:10 AM

I, just bought Acid Pro 6 cause I read "You can use one Mackie Control Universal with up to four Mackie Control Universal Extenders" and since I own a Tascam US-2400 that support Mackie HUI standard i was thrills (i do all my remixes and music in Acid Pro 5)... but I can't get it to work right. I just can assign 1-8 channels of all the 24 on the Tascam board. OK, i can switch between the banks and get it to work great but it would be great to assign all 24 channels at once...

Any ideas?

Subject:RE: Tascam US-2400

Reply by: pwppch

Date:4/4/2006 8:05:07 AM

There is no way to assign beyond the first 8 channels of the Tascam.

We are looking into supporting the Tascam more directly.

Note: ACID does not support the HUI standard, but the Mackie Control Univerisal Standard. They are very different.

Peter

Subject:RE: Tascam US-2400

Reply by: Moist

Date:4/4/2006 12:02:50 PM

OK... i think you should win a lot of new users if you did support more directly. Looking forward on any progress...

Subject:RE: Tascam US-2400

Reply by: Martian

Date:4/4/2006 2:36:42 PM

I read about acid supporting HUI somewhere and i think it was in one of the earlier brochures of acid pro 6... Strange.

Alex

Subject:RE: Tascam US-2400

Reply by: pwppch

Date:4/4/2006 5:22:42 PM

I can't find any reference to HUI support. We have never supported this and I know that it would have been red flagged by me very early if such information was released.

WRT the US-4200:
I have contacted Tascam, and this has been discontinued and we cannot obtain a unit to develope and test with (they are out of stock.) What this means is that it is unlikely we can add support. I will look into it, but with Tascam unable to procure hardware for us and the fact that it is discontinued, it does not look promising.

Peter

Subject:RE: Tascam US-2400

Reply by: Martian

Date:4/5/2006 2:20:42 AM

Just of curiosity: I´m in love with the tascam DM 3200 wich can connect to various DAW´s.

1: Am I able to use this as a controller/input device with Acid Pro 6.0?

2: If not... Will you ever consider making these two platforms kompatible?

Alex

Subject:RE: Tascam US-2400

Reply by: pwppch

Date:4/5/2006 9:21:14 AM

It appears that the DM supports Mackie Control protocol, so it should work with the same limitation as the US-2400.

I am in contact with Tascam, so I will see what they have to say about this.

Peter

Subject:RE: Tascam US-2400

Reply by: Moist

Date:4/6/2006 5:51:43 AM

I could buy one for you and send to you if you get it to work cause I love ACID and the tascam... would be sad to stop using ACID because of this tiny thing. :-)

Subject:RE: Tascam US-2400

Reply by: Martian

Date:4/6/2006 6:00:32 AM

Moist>> alex@greennet.gl

Subject:RE: Tascam US-2400

Reply by: Martian

Date:4/23/2006 11:45:32 PM

Any progress with finding out if the Tascam DM 3200 can be used with Acid Pro 6?

And if it isn´t compatible then will it ever be?

Martian

Subject:RE: Tascam US-2400

Reply by: pwppch

Date:4/24/2006 7:55:18 AM

I have started a discussion with Tascam.

They don't support MCU emulation directly with the DM 3200. We are discussing options for the future. The general feeling is that Tascam would have to develope drivers/support for ACID/Vegas. We are discussing this possibility.

Peter

Subject:RE: Tascam US-2400

Reply by: Martian

Date:4/24/2006 8:48:39 AM

Okay I´ll wait a little then Thanx for a quick reply.

Alex

Subject:RE: Tascam US-2400

Reply by: x_gogoa

Date:7/5/2006 8:23:34 AM

is there any news since i am a vegas user and my tascam is in the box almost a year. i would realy like use it together.

thanks,
gordan

Subject:RE: Tascam US-2400

Reply by: x_gogoa

Date:10/5/2006 6:46:44 AM

is there any news about tascam's drivers for acid/vegas?

gordan

Subject:RE: Tascam US-2400

Reply by: pwppch

Date:10/5/2006 10:24:47 AM

No, Tascam has not contacted us further regarding the DM.

It is unlikely that they will develope support for the US-2400 as this device is nolonger in production.

Peter

Subject:RE: Tascam US-2400

Reply by: x_gogoa

Date:10/9/2006 8:40:02 AM

thanks.

gordan

Subject:RE: Tascam US-2400

Reply by: x_gogoa

Date:10/13/2006 4:13:50 AM

Peter,

i think that problem can be solved without tascam.
us2400 shows as 4 midi port device. acid/ vegas should be able to add more than one mackie control device. for second and third should only make channel offset and voila! i have tested it with reaper and wokrs just fine.

and one more thing. reaper has automation envelope (volume/pan) arming, so we can affect them by external control device and vice versa what is imposibble in vegas (don't know for acid).

with due respect on both side, if reaper can this...

regards,
gordan

Subject:RE: Tascam US-2400

Reply by: pwppch

Date:10/13/2006 6:42:07 AM

Thanks for the information, but our approach is different than Reaper's in dealing with the MCU.

We have some ideas to solve this problem as there are other device like the US-2400 that expand beyond the 8 fader control but still use the MCU control protocol. We will consider it for a future version of or products.

>>and one more thing. reaper has automation envelope (volume/pan) arming, so we can affect them by external control device and vice versa what is imposibble in vegas (don't know for acid).<<

You can control automation envelopes with external control in Vegas and ACID.

There are two modes of control in Vegas/ACID
- Trim
- Automation

We provide control over both of these through external control and the MCU.

On the MCU there is a button labled "Automation" (or in the Automation Group section "On"). This toggles the MCU into and out of automation mode in Vegas/ACID.

So the surface is in either trim mode or automation mode with the MCU.

I don't know what the US-2400 exposes the buttons that are available on the MCU, but there might be a mapping you can make. If it does not permit this, then the US-2400 does not emulate the MCU in a way that is compatible with Vegas/ACID and there will be limitations as to what can be done.

Peter

Subject:RE: Tascam US-2400

Reply by: x_gogoa

Date:10/13/2006 10:36:52 AM

no such a button on tascam.
is there any way to change these modes in app??

i hope you will add this option soon.


gordan

Subject:RE: Tascam US-2400

Reply by: pwppch

Date:10/14/2006 7:28:18 AM

>>is there any way to change these modes in app??

No. This is under the control of the external control device.

The US-2400 claims to support the MCU protocol, but it does not implement required functionality.

We will provide a remapping in the configuration dialog for the MCU emulation to permit you to remap one of the US-2400 buttons to control this behavior.

Peter

Subject:RE: Tascam US-2400

Reply by: x_gogoa

Date:10/16/2006 3:36:47 AM

it sounds very promising!

thank you and your team.

regards,
gordan

Subject:RE: Tascam US-2400

Reply by: pwppch

Date:11/3/2006 11:48:47 AM

6.0c provides the ability to address all of the US-2400( and DM-3200) through the Mackie Control drivers.

You can now add the 3 emulated devices to support the US-2400.

The SONAR or Digital Performer modes of the US-2400 (and DM-3200) should permit you to configure 1 Emulated MCU, and 2 Emulated XT units for a total of 24 channels.

Please refer to your Tacam docs to assure that you use the correct MIDI ports that are exposed by the US-2400 and DM-3200.

To toggle the surface from trim to automation mode, the driver exposed the Automation Toggle setting for reassignment. You will have to determine which assignable MCU buttons are available on the Tascam units

- From the "Configure Mackie Control" dialog, locate the "Available host functions: combo box.
- Select "Assign" This will display a single entry "Automation Mode". The MCU defaults this to be assigned the Automation button on the MCU front panel.
- Determine which of the "User define surface control mappings" are available on the Tascam unit. Select this item and click the Assign button. With other emulated MCU devices we have found that Shift+Play works well, but this will depend on how the Tascam units emulate the available buttons of a real MCU.

We don't have these units, so we could not test with either one, so if there are any problems please let me know.

Peter