Subject:Acid Pro 6 input monitoring ?

Posted by: Djipy

Date:4/3/2006 4:29:20 AM

I can't find the input monitoring option in Acid pro 6.
Is it incompatible with the Microsoft sound mapper ?

Subject:RE: Acid Pro 6 input monitoring ?

Reply by: billybk

Date:4/3/2006 5:03:52 AM

You access the input monitoring, after you enable the record button, for your track. Check the ACID help file for all the info. You also need to be using a low latency ASIO audio driver, for best results. Does your audio card have ASIO drivers available? It works fine with my Delta 66's ASIO drivers. I can get as low as 64 samples (1.5msec latency), when using a softsynth or amp sim.

Cheers,

Billy Buck

Subject:RE: Acid Pro 6 input monitoring ?

Reply by: Djipy

Date:4/3/2006 5:31:23 AM

The computer I'm trying Acid Pro 6 on has no Asio driver.
It's "SoundMAX Integrated Digital Audio".
Is the input monitoring option unavailable in this case ?

Subject:RE: Acid Pro 6 input monitoring ?

Reply by: billybk

Date:4/3/2006 5:57:46 AM

Low end onboard audio chips are not really recommended, for quality low latency audio use. Most use some form of WDM (which is incompatible with ACID Pro), probably why it is exposing the Microsoft Sound Mapper, in ACID. You will probably be alright for playback, but not for input monitoring though, unless you can find ASIO drivers, for it. Even then, I am not sure how good the sound quality will be, if using the laptops cheap noisy mini jack connectors.
I am using a Delta 66 (ASIO), on my desktop and a Line 6 TonePort UX2 (ASIO), on my laptop. Both work fine using input monitoring, in ASIO mode. Both have excellent professional instrument (1/4") & XLR (Mic) connectors and preamps. FWIW, I permanantly disabled the el-cheapo on-board audio chip, on my laptop, when I got my UX2. A fine piece, of kit, BTW.

Cheers,

Billy Buck

Subject:RE: Acid Pro 6 input monitoring ?

Reply by: sethpolansky

Date:4/3/2006 6:39:22 AM

you can always try this free, universal asio driver called Asio4All. I've had decent luck with it on my work PC.

http://www.asio4all.com/

-S

Subject:RE: Acid Pro 6 input monitoring ?

Reply by: pwppch

Date:4/3/2006 6:55:33 AM

Correct. We don't support audio input monitoring with Wave Classic or the Mapper. The latency is too high. You must use ASIO drivers to enable the input monitoring feature.

Peter

Subject:RE: Acid Pro 6 input monitoring ?

Reply by: jdscogin

Date:4/3/2006 8:26:08 AM

Question for billybk.
With the Delta 66, will you be able to record 6 seperate chanels at one time in Acid Pro 6? Is the Delta 44 the same except only 4 chanels? I read some reviews of the Delta 44 that were not the best. Wanted some info from someone who uses it with acid. Thanks

Subject:RE: Acid Pro 6 input monitoring ?

Reply by: billybk

Date:4/3/2006 8:50:21 AM

With the Delta 66, will you be able to record 6 seperate chanels at one time in Acid Pro 6? Is the Delta 44 the same except only 4 chanels? I read some reviews of the Delta 44 that were not the best. Wanted some info from someone who uses it with acid.


The main I/O difference between the 66 & 44, is the 66 has the added stereo S/PDIF capability. So you still have only (4) instrument/mic level inputs available. I have the OMNI I/O, as a front end for the Delta 66, which provides a lot of flexible routing possibilites and a couple, of solid DMP-2 preamps. I usually do all my recording @ 24/44. I've had the same Delta 66/OMNI I/O combo, since 2000. I've never had a hardware problem and the drivers are solid. In fact, the latest .51 drivers are now Pro-Tools M-Powered compatible, as well, as providing excellent low latency ASIO & WDM compatibility, for other apps, like ACID Pro 6 & SONAR 5.

So if, you can record (6) inputs, at one time, but two of those inputs would have to come, from a S/PDIF source.

Cheers,

Billy Buck

Subject:RE: Acid Pro 6 input monitoring ?

Reply by: kbruff

Date:4/3/2006 9:06:36 AM

what is omni i/o == please comment.

Subject:RE: Acid Pro 6 input monitoring ?

Reply by: JohnnyRoy

Date:4/3/2006 9:18:36 AM

> So if, you can record (6) inputs, at one time, but two of those inputs would have to come, from a S/PDIF source.

Yea, I love the M-Audio products but you have to read their specs very carefully when it comes to I/O. I made the same mistake. I thought the Firewire 410 was 4-in and 10-out. Silly me, it’s only 2 in and 8 out. The other two in-puts are SPDIF which are useless for anyone needing mic/line inputs. Even looking at the actual box you can’t tell. It actually has 4 ¼” phone inputs (2 in the back and 2 in the front). You just can use them simultaneously! :-( The same is true for the FW Audiophile that claims to be 4x6. It’s actually 2x4 + stereo SPDIF, and others.

In general, I always subtract 2 from any claims M-Audio makes. It’s not like they are lying or anything, but it would be clearer if they called it the FW410 the FW28+2 (or FW282). ;-)

~jr

Subject:RE: Acid Pro 6 input monitoring ?

Reply by: JohnnyRoy

Date:4/3/2006 9:28:17 AM

> what is omni i/o == please comment.

It’s an alternate break-out box on steroids for the Delta66 card that adds XLR inputs and lots of other stuff. I don’t believe they sell it anymore (it was part of the MIDIMAN line). I couldn’t find it anywhere on their site. Here is a link to the NAMM report from Harmony Central so you can see it.

~jr

Subject:RE: Acid Pro 6 input monitoring ?

Reply by: billybk

Date:4/3/2006 9:52:27 AM

Wow, I did know that M-Audio had discontinued it. A great solid, flexible, inexpensive front-end, for a DAW. You can probably still find some if you shop around:

http://www.samash.com/catalog/showitem.asp?ItemID=16607


Cheers,

Billy Buck

Subject:RE: Acid Pro 6 input monitoring ?

Reply by: jdscogin

Date:4/3/2006 10:01:20 AM

So, I think what you are saying is, if I buy the Delta 44, then I would have 2 inputs that I could plug a mic or a guitar( thru mixer). If that is true, that would be ok, since I have a SB card also which would give me 3 inputs. Is that correct?
MF has the Delta 44 for $129.00
Thanks

Subject:RE: Acid Pro 6 input monitoring ?

Reply by: JohnnyRoy

Date:4/3/2006 10:41:07 AM

> if I buy the Delta 44, then I would have 2 inputs...

No, Sorry to confuse you. The Delta 44 is the exception. It really is 4-in/4-out. But the Delta 66 is 4x4 and the Delta 1010 is 8x8, etc.

If you want to plug in a mic then yes, you will need a mixer or get the Omni I/O like Billy did if it's still available.

I don’t see how the SB card gives you 3 inputs. It only has 2 inputs (i.e., 1 stereo input) and any given time. Also the sound quality for recording is not that great.

~jr

Subject:RE: Acid Pro 6 input monitoring ?

Reply by: jdscogin

Date:4/3/2006 11:23:05 AM

"I don’t see how the SB card gives you 3 inputs. It only has 2 inputs (i.e., 1 stereo input) and any given time. Also the sound quality for recording is not that great."

Sorry, I ment 2 from the Delta 44 and 1 from the SB. So I guess I could just use the Delta 44 and have 4 inputs. That is great. I am going to order one.
Thanks

Subject:RE: Acid Pro 6 input monitoring ?

Reply by: jdscogin

Date:4/3/2006 12:54:52 PM

ACH, I am still wrong. The Delta 44 has 4 mono chanels. 2 Stereo chanels. hmmmmm

Subject:RE: Acid Pro 6 input monitoring ?

Reply by: Djipy

Date:4/3/2006 2:59:17 PM

Input monitoring works fine with the Edirol UA-5 in advanced mode (ASIO).