OT Use Vegas to Decode Human Genome

JJKizak wrote on 1/31/2006, 4:42 PM

With multiple timelines with a function on each one ---bone growth, skin growth, arm growth, teeth growth, cartilage growth, finger growth, leg growth, ankle growth, toe growth, eye growth, face growth, nose growth, ear growth, lung growth, rib growth, etc. how many timelines would there be to simulate the actual growth of a human being?

JJK

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Spot|DSE wrote on 1/31/2006, 5:09 PM

Well....the leg bone's connected to the thigh bone, the thigh bone.... :-) Sorry, couldn't help it.

It would seem that if you build a timeline for each function, you'd easily end up with a couple hundred. So, if you were doing that with image overlays (heaven hope so!) then you'd likely want to run it all fairly fast. What a challenge, but sounds like a fun one.

FuTz wrote on 1/31/2006, 5:28 PM

JJ, you definitely got one of these genomes over-developped to ask things like that!
:D

DrLumen wrote on 1/31/2006, 5:47 PM

Using a flipped image and/or mirrorer would help. For example, 1 image of say a right forearm set in a frame and then mirrored and moved, or flipped, to use as the left forarm.

I guess it really depends how much detail you want to have on each "genome"? That could be general like "legs" or something like thigh, knee, calf, ankle, foot, toes...

I guess this should be in 3D (4D)?

Like was said, good puzzle though...

Chienworks wrote on 2/1/2006, 4:43 AM

The latest consensus on human DNA seems to indicate that we have between 20,000 and 30,000 genes. That's a LOT of tracks! If you want a project that traces the development of each individual gene to an expressed characteristic you're going to have an enormous project on your hands.

Then again, extremely literal minds (such as mine) are sitting here scratching our heads wondering just what the heck James is thinking of. Are you creating animation to show the development? Are you going to be videotaping growing embryos? Are you layering diagrams of molecules? Or is this merely some bizarre non-sequitor thought experiment?

JJKizak wrote on 2/1/2006, 5:42 AM

Thought about annimation first then wondered exactly how the DNA chain functions on a "timing level". How do four different chemicals combine in timed sequences produce a "cat", "bird", or "human". I call it "up front" technique whereby the total software program is duplicated "up front" in all directions at the same time so that it never runs out of information about what to do. Can you call it "Quadery" instead of "Binary" or "Square of Quadery" ?

JJK

Chienworks wrote on 2/1/2006, 7:01 AM

I think "Base 4" is a perfectly good term. ;) The nucleotides are used in triplets which allows for 64 different combinations. Many of the combinations map to various amino acids, so a string of nucleotide triplets will specify how a particular protein will be made up of specific amino acids. Some of the triplets act as punctuation. When a certain combination is reached it specifies the end of the sequence. The next triplet will be the start of a code for a different protein.

Many proteins act as enzymes which control chemical reactions. Obviously some of these reactions lead to certain patterns of cell growth resulting in various body part shapes. Typical proteins can consist of dozens, hundreds, or even thousands of amino acids. There are 22 different amino acids used. 22 choices for each spot in a chain of thousands means that the potential number of different enzymes is ... well, "astronomical" isn't a big enough word!

I think what is amazing is not the complexity, since that's just simple math, but that it actually works. It's a sure sign that someone is in control.

garo wrote on 2/1/2006, 11:28 AM

"I think what is amazing is not the complexity, since that's just simple math, but that it actually works. It's a sure sign that someone is in control."

If "someone" smart was in control would they be using simple math? Just a thought.

vitalforce2 wrote on 2/1/2006, 1:37 PM

I recently read where scientists are about three years from completing a genome for a frozen mammoth (Iceland, I think) and testing it by fertilizing an elephant egg. Amazing. Pleistocene Park. They apparently plan in the long term to create a vast preserve where they will try to reintroduce species present during early Man.

Only experiment I've heard of besides that was trying to cross an elephant with a rhino. What do you get? Elefino!

(No intelligent design in this post, eh?)

Serena wrote on 2/1/2006, 3:44 PM

Siberia.

vitalforce wrote on 2/1/2006, 5:10 PM

Siberia, that's it. No room for such a vast preserve in Iceland.