OT: Vegas 6d...when?

p@mast3rs wrote on 12/14/2005, 6:30 AM

Can anyone, perhaps someone from Sony or whoever, comment if we can expect Vegas 6d to be out shortly? I totally understand not commenting until it is released but Im hoping the H.264 AVC resolutions and bit rates have been increased and also QT7 fixed.

Also, any chance of x64 OS support so we can stop running in 32bit mode?

Thanks.

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busterkeaton wrote on 12/14/2005, 7:26 AM

I don't think anyone from Sony will comment, my guess is not the next 6-8 weeks. The new version of Acid is expected out shortly. I'm guessing mid January. NAMM, the NAB, of the music industry is going to be Jan 19-22. I suspect Sony is readying Acid for then. This is going to be a very, very big release of Acid and Sony will have a lot riding on it. My guess is that is going to be all hands on deck for Acid until then. That probably takes us in February when we get the first version of Acid 6.0a. I doubt Vegas would tackle 64 bit until the next release.

This is from a post I made in the Acid forum.

I was at a Sony event in NYC and the Sony rep promised the next release of Acid was going to major. All he said was there will be an Acid 6 and a Vegas 7 and Acid will come first. My guess was Acid was in the end stages, but that's just a total guess. He also mentioned there were going to do a promo where they mail out a Sony 2006 calendar. The calendar has has music trivia and each month there is a url you can go to for special Acid promos. (If I remember correctly, the url would have free loops. Don't quote me on that though.) He said it was going to be their biggest mailing ever. I think the calendar is Acid-specific, not Media Software in general.

You can sign up for the calendar here.
http://www.sony.com/freeloops

Spot|DSE wrote on 12/14/2005, 8:14 AM

Just out of curiosity, how many 64bit systems are out there? 64 bit is still very cutting edge, with dang few drivers available. The worst thing anyone could do in a recording or post environment is to wake up one day at say "I'm going 64bit today" without first acquiring all of the 64 bit drivers for everything on that system, and I'd wager they'd not find em' for most of their hardware. That would be devastating.

p@mast3rs wrote on 12/14/2005, 8:21 AM

I have managed to find all of the drivers for my laptop so Im good to go as far as x64. I agree its cutting edge. The problem is the hardware manufacturers are in no hurry to develop x64 drivers because they claim there are not a lot of x64 systems out there and users wont go to x64 until there are drivers. Its a vicious circle.

I could only imagine that Vegas would benefit in some aspects from a x64 code base even if it shaves off a little bit of time.

busterkeaton wrote on 12/14/2005, 8:47 AM

I could only imagine that Vegas would benefit in some aspects from a x64 code base even if it shaves off a little bit of time.

Do you mean in terms of stability? Because realistically it's not imperative for Vegas to have 64 bit in Vegas 7, it would be nice if implemented without issues, but for 90-95 percent of the users it wouldn't matter. If 64 bit is only a bit faster, what are its other advantages?

p@mast3rs wrote on 12/14/2005, 8:53 AM

I am looking at perhaps speed increases with regards to encoding to such codecs such as H.264 AVC and WM9 HD which both could use some speed increases as it takes forever to encode Hi-Def resolutions

Chienworks wrote on 12/14/2005, 8:58 AM

For me, it's not really faster until the speed doubles. Any increase less than that isn't worth the effort necessary to get there. I wouldn't do anything to my system to get a 2 hour render down to 70 minutes and risk the lost of stability that may come with those changes.

"A little bit" isn't worth the risk.

JJKizak wrote on 12/14/2005, 9:20 AM

My opinion is the 64x OS available now is a throwaway when Longhorn comes out shortly with all of the necessary drivers as determined by all of the people screaming for drivers who have the 64x OS.

JJK

Coursedesign wrote on 12/14/2005, 9:32 AM

x64 is not a throwaway for those who use lots of RAM (more than the 2 or 3 GB x32 limit).

This is a factor in for example 3D and heavy compositing, and the performance difference is unrelated to the CPU's crunching ability, it's about reducing disk shuffling dramatically.

vitalforce2 wrote on 12/14/2005, 2:09 PM

I'm still hopeful (wishful?) that one of the hardest things to do is being tackled--to allow a user to set Vegas (7) to utilize the drivers in the major hardware graphics cards, e.g. OpenGL or DirectX in nVidia, ATI, and some of the commercial guys.

FrigidNDEditing wrote on 12/14/2005, 2:36 PM

I would say that you can expect to see it under a different name sometime in April... If you know what I mean. They do 3-4 releases and then a new version. I've been dropping some hints into some sony ears/eyes as to things that they should get into the next version cuz I'm almost certain that the next release will be 7. But that's not based on anything that anyone from sony has said to me, it's just my assumption, based on previous releases etc... Though they usually get a D out, so we might see something right before 7 just to get a couple last things fixed up.

Dave

winrockpost wrote on 12/14/2005, 3:08 PM

................... I would say that you can expect to see it under a different name sometime in April... If you know what I mean.............
Maybe Sony baby XPRI , or sony now we are stable, or hell maybe V7 then the V8

rs170a wrote on 12/14/2005, 5:19 PM

They do 3-4 releases and then a new version

Let's see. 3.0c, 4.0e, 5.0d, 6.0c. Sounds about right to me :-)

<?>...sometime in April

April 24 to be precise. Start your NAB planning now!!

Mike

busterkeaton wrote on 12/15/2005, 12:56 PM

One thing I had not considered was HVX200 support. If market forces dictate that Vegas needs to add support than Vegas 6D could come sooner than I thought. See Barry Green's post here

http://www.sonymediasoftware.com/forums/ShowMessage.asp?MessageID=408901&Replies=38#427711

winrockpost wrote on 12/15/2005, 2:32 PM

On Soapbox , i totaly agree with rs170a, April 24 to be precise .For the new release, hopefully an update to 6 will be before , but the new release will be April 24 . Software rushed like crazy to meet that show is stupid, glitches, bugs, worn out engineers, crap product released. V5 and 6 both were released at least a month early to be at the show. Corporate Stupid .My opinion, of course I could be wrong.
Off soapbox.