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                             Subject:SF8 and Vinyl 
                            Posted by: OpChiasm 
                            Date:4/27/2005 5:55:28 PM 
                            Thanks very much for any suggestions on workflow when recording a vinyl LP.                                 I have SF8 and NR2. In the Tools menu, there's Audio Restoration. In the FX menu, there's Vinyl Restoration. I could also use NR's Noise Reduction, Click and Crackle Removal, and Clipped Peak Restoration. I'd like the process to be a compromise between automation and good results. I am strictly amateur and don't have a very good ear either. Thanks again.  | 
                    
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                             Subject:RE: SF8 and Vinyl 
                            Reply by: rraud 
                            Date:4/28/2005 4:56:05 PM 
                            There has been many, many, many informative threads on this forum about vinyl in the past.                                 Do a search for "vinyl".  | 
                    
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                             Subject:RE: SF8 and Vinyl 
                            Reply by: sirshambling 
                            Date:4/29/2005 12:47:54 PM 
                            Speaking as another amateur who has spent several years transferring vinyl to my PC  I think you've got all the tools to do a pretty good job - and if you're not overly fussy about the results I think most of the process can be "automatic".                                 I'd suggest the try following test:- After recoeding the LP use the preset "Default for vinyl" on Click & Crackle Removal. Then use the preset "Default for fast computers" in Noise Reduction and listen to the results. If they're OK then use the Plug-In chainer to set up these 2 defaults so that they run in the order I've suggested and simply then record all the LPs you want and run the Plug-in chainer as set up against the files you create. That way you don't have to spend longer than a couple of minutes clreaning up on each LP - aside from the enjoyment of listening to them as you record them of course. If you're not satisfied with the test result you can use the "capture noiseprint" option in Noise Reduction for more accurate results after running the Click & Crackle removal tool - but it's more fiddly and takes considerably longer. Hope this is useful. John  | 
                    
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                             Subject:RE: SF8 and Vinyl 
                            Reply by: Geoff_Wood 
                            Date:4/30/2005 4:47:43 AM 
                            ... unless otherwise unobtainium, I suggest that it is always better to go down the shops and get a real CD.  No matter how poor the transcription, it is likly to be better  from the master tape than going through vinyl.                                 geoff  | 
                    
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                             Subject:RE: SF8 and Vinyl 
                            Reply by: sirshambling 
                            Date:4/30/2005 11:28:49 PM 
                            You're right Geoff of course but I'd say that 75% of my vinyl hasn't made it on to CD. No choice!                                 John.  | 
                    
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                             Subject:RE: SF8 and Vinyl 
                            Reply by: Geoff_Wood 
                            Date:5/1/2005 3:48:11 PM 
                            In that case you do the best you can  ;-)                                 geoff  | 
                    
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                             Subject:RE: SF8 and Vinyl 
                            Reply by: OpChiasm 
                            Date:5/2/2005 9:12:36 AM 
                            Thanks for the suggestion, John.                                 Have you ever used Wave Hammer for vinyl restoration?  | 
                    
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                             Subject:RE: SF8 and Vinyl 
                            Reply by: mpd 
                            Date:5/2/2005 10:22:14 AM 
                            Wave Hammer is a mastering tool, and not a restoration tool.  If you are archiving your vinyl recordings, then you really want to do as little processing to them as possible.  Adding another round of compression/limiting would probably ruin the character of the album.                                  | 
                    
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                             Subject:RE: SF8 and Vinyl 
                            Reply by: OpChiasm 
                            Date:5/2/2005 11:43:00 AM 
                            Thanks, mpd.                                 In vinyl posts I had searched, it had been mentioned, but I didn't really understand its purpose.  | 
                    
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                             Subject:RE: SF8 and Vinyl 
                            Reply by: Geoff_Wood 
                            Date:5/2/2005 3:55:13 PM 
                            Given that mastering for vinyl was always a compromise, especially wrt attainable bass levels, I've found Waves Maxxbass can improve some especially lame LPs.... if you are not a purist.                                 geoff  | 
                    
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                             Subject:RE: SF8 and Vinyl 
                            Reply by: OpChiasm 
                            Date:5/2/2005 5:08:10 PM 
                            I am far from a "purist", but $400 for a plugin??                                 Yikes. The previously mentioned suggestions will do just fine. Thanks anyway.  |