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Subject:What's easiest way to get data to CD?
Posted by: Lanco
Date:4/21/2005 7:46:12 AM

Hello

I record on SF 6.0 and have been using a Magix program to burn to CD etc.

I find out that what is going on the CD from Magix is not a standard WAV.

Is it not best to have a regular wav file transferred to CD?

So, what are the easiest and best ways to get my music onto CD's?

What is the easiest way to put an ID tag on my recordings? Does each one have to be entered seperately, or if all info is the same on all songs except for the song title is there a way to just easily change the song title?

Any suggestions on this topic, including things that I didn't ask would be greatly appreciated.

Thanx
Scott

Subject:RE: What's easiest way to get data to CD?
Reply by: Chienworks
Date:4/21/2005 8:27:26 AM

Audio CDs have a slightly different format. The data contained within the CD is the same data as a 44.1KHz 16 bit stereo .wav file, but the files are stored somewhat differently. If you want to make a standard Audio CD that can be played back on any CD player then you must use the Audio CD format. Creating a data disk with .wav files on it is not Audio CD compatible.

I don't believe .wav files support ID3 tags. Generally these tags exist in compressed formats such as MP3. If you want to retain the best quality possible then you shouldn't use compressed formats. However, i usually save my libraries as MP3 files as well, and when i save them i click the Custom button to set up a template for saving the files. I'll fill in the ID3 information for the first file, then after that i use "Last template that you didn't save" each time and merely change the song title, leaving all the rest of the information intact for that entire album.

CD Architect 5.2 allows CD-Text on standard Audio CDs.

Subject:RE: What's easiest way to get data to CD?
Reply by: kbouchard
Date:4/21/2005 10:01:17 AM

you can burn standard .wav files onto a cdr and it'll play just fine on ANY cd player. A directory of that cdr using windows explorer will show the files as .cda but don't worry, they're really .wav
You're right, standard audio cd's don't support ID3, I use cdtext, B's Recorder Gold supports cdtext and that's the way to get record info onto a cdr. (you'll only see that text if you're playing that cdr on a player that supports cdtext and not many DO)

thanks, ken

Subject:RE: What's easiest way to get data to CD?
Reply by: drbam
Date:4/21/2005 11:28:09 AM

"you can burn standard .wav files onto a cdr and it'll play just fine on ANY cd player."

I think what he meant here was any *computer* cd player. Obviously you can't play .wav files in standard CD players.

drbam

Subject:RE: What's easiest way to get data to CD?
Reply by: kbouchard
Date:4/21/2005 11:57:44 AM

Sorry, but I've been burning .wav files onto cdr's for 3 years as part of my business and they play in ANY player, computer or boombox etc.

thanks, ken

Subject:RE: What's easiest way to get data to CD?
Reply by: Chienworks
Date:4/21/2005 2:04:00 PM

Ken, what you mean is that you've been using .wav files as input to CD Audio burning software that burns Audio CDs. The resulting files on the CD-R are not .wav files, though they do contain the same data. If you had actually burned .wav files to a CD you would have a Data disc, not an Audio disc, and very very few stand-alone CD players would be able to play it.

Subject:RE: What's easiest way to get data to CD?
Reply by: drbam
Date:4/21/2005 2:07:39 PM

Thank you Chienworks. I assumed Ken was a bit more informed.

Peace,

drbam

Subject:RE: What's easiest way to get data to CD?
Reply by: fultro
Date:4/21/2005 2:11:04 PM

I think the misunderstanding here is that therre is a difference between burning wav files as data and using CD RedBook authoring to burn those same wav files - the former retains the .wav extension, the latter takes on the cda extension. Commercial CD players do not recognize the .wav extension (if they do it is news to many of us - probably only a handful) On the other hand more commercial CD players are recognizing the mp3 extension I believe.
Sound Forge, Acid and Vegas burn Red Book compliant CDs with whatever file format is on the timeline. In a prog like Nero you have to make a choice - CD-ROM that will burn with the .wav extension and will only be playable in computers for the most part; or CD--Audio which will give you a RedBook CD playable in any CD player

Subject:RE: What's easiest way to get data to CD?
Reply by: Rednroll
Date:4/21/2005 2:23:16 PM

Educating the technically challenged can be a struggle at times. I go through this everytime my mother asks me something about using a computer. I bought her a Harman/Kardon surround system one year for Christmas and evertime I go to her house, she asks me why there isn't any sound coming from the rear speakers. So I set the system up again, so that each source has the proper surround mode and everythings working in surround and sounding good. The next time I go back to visit, she's pressed the wrong button on the remote control and the rear speakers aren't working again. She's basically given up and listens to the TV through the built in speaker, and the 5.1 speakers are just decoration items now. The ironic part is, she keeps asking me to set up another system in her basement for her.

Subject:RE: What's easiest way to get data to CD?
Reply by: fultro
Date:4/21/2005 2:30:28 PM

What you are about to read is true:
The LCD time display on my VCR has been flashing 12:00 for almost 20 years now

Subject:RE: What's easiest way to get data to CD?
Reply by: mpd
Date:4/21/2005 2:51:49 PM

Actually, since wav can vary in sample rate, sample resolution, number of channels, and sample format, what you have on the CD and what you have in the wav may not even match. Many (most?) burning programs will do on the fly format conversiotn to 44.1 kHz / 16-bit / stereo / PCM.

Subject:RE: What's easiest way to get data to CD?
Reply by: Chienworks
Date:4/22/2005 10:14:40 AM

20 years ago? You probably mean vacuum-fluorescent. Not many devices had LCD panels back then. Actually most VCRs i see now (and there are darned few of them anymore) still have VF displays. Those that don't are usually LED.

Then again, folks who don't set their VCR clocks probably don't care about the distinctions between LCD, LED, and VF anyway. ;)

For my next VCR i want one with every bit of necessary information displayed on the little display panel on the front of the VCR. I never ever ever want anything displayed on the screen except video. No on-screen programming or messages (like i really need to have the VCR put "STOP" on the screen when i press the stop button .... *sheesh*). I want ALL the buttons on the VCR itself. I don't need anything more than basic stop/start/pause/ff/rew and maybe channel up/down on the remote. If there is a button on the remote that isn't on the VCR then some design engineer deserves tar & feathering. Oh, and of course it has to have 4 head, flying erase head, HiFi stereo, level meters and volume control, S-Video in/out, still frame recording, firewire in/out ... i'll probably think of more. Suppose i'll find a model like this?

Subject:RE: What's easiest way to get data to CD?
Reply by: mpd
Date:4/22/2005 10:52:45 AM

http://bssc.sel.sony.com/BroadcastandBusiness/DisplayModel?m=0&p=16&sp=112&id=74780

You didn't specify which format... :)

Subject:RE: What's easiest way to get data to CD?
Reply by: Chienworks
Date:4/22/2005 11:09:28 AM

I'll take two!!!!! :)

Subject:RE: What's easiest way to get data to CD?
Reply by: fultro
Date:4/22/2005 3:45:11 PM

actually I meant LED - it is a Toshiba VCR made with a 14 bit stereo PCM recorder much like the the first Sony F1 (I think they were called) that you used as a digital front end to analog tape - just prior to the release of the first DAT machines - I still have loads of material on VHS tapes tha tonly this machine will play (reminds me that I need to get that stuff off there before this machine gives out ) anyway - gave up on the clock becaus it always reset to 12:00 when the power strip with all the other stuff got turned off every day

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