Subject:Copying Midi Events...?

Posted by: Tomdini

Date:3/16/2005 8:47:23 PM

Hey!

Brand-new to Acid, as of somewhere around a week or so ago. I've used Vegas for about two years but needed an additional app for scoring to film... Acid provides that quite well, and much cheaper than those "other" two apps which have music-to-video synching tools... both of which I happen to dislike immensely...

Anyway. I love Acid. Easy to use (as I expected...), with only a few obvious bugs which have already been covered on this forum... BUT...

Is there an easy way to copy midi events? As in... copy and paste them to another midi track? Just like you can do with notes? You see, I'm running quite a few multi-timbral VSTi's with 10, 15, 20 tracks going at once... sometimes (okay, lots of the time), these tracks are mirroring one another as far as midi events are concerned... velocity, modulation, etc... and I need a way to bring over identical data from other tracks.

I know about duplicating the midi track, but usually these tracks aren't mirrors of one another the whole way through the song, just particular segments, and I need to be able to pick and choose which series of events get copied over.

As of right now, I'm drawing the mirrored events by hand, switching between the "master" template track and the other daughter tracks... the fact that they're not identical often helps as I'm trying to "humanize" most of these tracks... but it's just so cumbersome.

I figured... why not ask here? It's the obvious spot! And I know I'm just missing something obvious... after all, I just started.

Thanks in advance for any help!
-Tom

Subject:RE: Copying Midi Events...?

Reply by: JohnnyRoy

Date:3/17/2005 9:33:46 AM

It sounds like you only want pieces of tracks and for that you have to cut/copy and paste. If you wanted entire tracks, you could use the StolenTrack OPT plug-in from GenieSys. But for partial tracks, cut and paste is the only way. Ctrl+C to copy, Ctrl+X to cut, and Ctrl+V to paste into the new track.

~jr

Subject:Events, not tracks!!

Reply by: Tomdini

Date:3/17/2005 5:08:56 PM

No, no. I need the events. Not the notes. The midi events. Continuous controller data, and such.

Copying and pasting works fine for the midi notes themselves. But the event data below the main piano roll - I need THAT information copied, not the notes. I can select the notes with the selector tool, ctrl+c, then ctrl+v them into another track. But how do I select the midi events and copy them...? There must be a way... as far as I know, copying the notes doesn't bring their respective midi events with them.

So I'm asking how to copy and paste midi events?! I can't select them in the piano roll editor, with the selector tool... just notes. But there has to be a way to duplicate midi events without duplicating tracks (as I only need part of the midi event data).

Thanks!
-Tom

Subject:RE: Events, not tracks!!

Reply by: Illogical

Date:3/18/2005 9:30:15 AM

Hi Tomdini, not sure about this, but can't you cut and paste stuff in the list editor (the tab just to the right of the piano roll editor)? All the Cc changes should appear there, you just need to find 'em, copy 'em, and paste 'em to the list editor for the other Midi track. And if this doesn't work, write Sony and tell 'em it should.

Subject:RE: Events, not tracks!!

Reply by: JohnnyRoy

Date:3/18/2005 10:18:34 AM

I tried using the List editor before I posted and it didn’t work. Nothing got copied. I don’t see any way to do this other than making a copy of the track a deleting the things you don’t want.

~jr

Subject:Yup.

Reply by: Tomdini

Date:3/18/2005 12:24:04 PM

That's what I thought. No real legit way to copy that cc data (should be able to via the list editor, by all logical reckoning). Too bad. Otherwise Acid's MIDI functionality would be, as far as I'm concerned (and as far as anything I'll ever need), smooth, easy, and perfect. Well, I'll let 'em know... hell, maybe we won't have to wait for the next version period. It can't be THAT difficult to implement, can it?

Thanks for the help guys.

-Tom

Subject:RE: Yup.

Reply by: TDuck

Date:3/18/2005 3:22:07 PM

You can duplicate the track a tnen delete notes.That way You gonna have two tracks with same midi events.
http://tduck.ca

Subject:P.S.

Reply by: TDuck

Date:3/19/2005 6:04:40 AM

Just in Case : Right click on track number - menu - duplicate track

Subject:RE: Events, not tracks!!

Reply by: Illogical

Date:3/19/2005 6:26:26 AM

"I tried using the List editor before I posted and it didn’t work. Nothing got copied. I don’t see any way to do this other than making a copy of the track a deleting the things you don’t want."

Yeah, I wasn't sure about that, I was at work (slow day) and didn't have Acid in front of me to try it out...but it should work though, right? It would make the list editor a bit more useful...maybe next update?